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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:13 pm 
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This isn't really NLP and I have no idea how to be a hypnotist. Posting because I have twice observed my wife hypnotized and was amazed at the result. The first time, in a stage show, she was convinced that she was 8 years old. She remembered details that were amazing, her body movements, everything. It was like her 8 year old self is still alive and well inside her.

The second time was at a private party where she was told it was really hot and she partially stripped. This was a group of couples and it was not well-received by some of the other wives. I was uncomfortable, too, although she didnt actually get nude.

Amazingly, she recalls NONE of what happened. I have pics taken by my cell phone of the second time and she was shocked to see them. So here's the question. What are the dangers to messing with people's minds like that? Can you damage someone seriously? She says she loved the feeling/sensation, her experience was postive but I wonder.

Also, both times, I tried it and it didnt work. Why not on me?


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the thing is you cant be forced to do things against your will or against your belief no matter what people say! the person is basically a willing participant if something is said that they dislike then they will snap out of the state, what do you mean you tried it and it didnt work?? did you try to induce hypnosis or did you try to be hypnotised?

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The point that Darren Brown makes in his book is that the danger is that if something goes wrong that's utterly unrelated, people will often try to blame the hypnotist.


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crazyoney, it's not about accepting it's about being weak

zebra, so the hypnotist can't fail and harm ? what a strange belief


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I went up on stage and tried to be hypnotized but nothing happened. Can I post the photos of her while she was under? Or is that not possible until I have been a member a while?


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zebra, so the hypnotist can't fail and harm ? what a strange belief
I've never heard of it happening. Much more likely is that hypnotism, coincidence and bad stuff (eg. illness/accidents) all get mushed together and the hypnotism is blamed by irrational people.


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so basically what you're saying is a hypnotist will never assume any responsability
how come the positive effect is from him and not the bad one...
what do we say already... victory has many fathers and defeat is an orphan


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Someone suggested I post the photos with imageshack? Not sure if this will work.

http://img713.imageshack.us/g/q16i.jpg/

If anyone is really knowledgeable about hypnosis, please message me!


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Those images are way too small! do you *cough* have anymore showing how far she actually went? ^^


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I can shed some light on this.

Everyone has different levels of receptivity when it comes to hypnosis. Your wife is probably very receptive to it... you may not be as receptive. If you are interested in hypnosis there are ways to induce less receptive people, however a stage or show hypnotist would not be using these, as they don't make for as much of a show. (longer induction period and a more shallow trance). Show hypnotists run basic tests to figure out the people in the audience who appear to be extremely hypnotically suggestible, because this makes for a good show. (quick inductions, with relatively deep trances.)

If you wish to be hypnotized I would recommend working with a hypnotherapist as they will be used to running longer inductions and dealing with less hypnotically receptive patients.

You can also work up your hypnotic suggestibility. One of the easiest ways to do this is some basic meditation. Meditation has a lot of similarities to hypnosis and as you become more and more used to getting yourself into meditative states, you will be more and more receptive to getting into hypnotic states as well.


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it's funny you call it being "receptive"
i have another explanation


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Some people cannot be "fully hypnotised" to the state where they "fall asleep/into a trance". My friend G doesn't have the attention span to listen to a hypnotised routine.

A basic level of unconscious thought is like when you drive for a while and suddenly realise you've missed your turning because you were driving on Auto-Pilot. This is basically acting in a level of below conscious thought. Which is what hypnosis tries to do.

Some of hypnosis is based on a Placebo. If you expect to fall asleep you will etc.

But people cannot do things against their will. If killing is against your nature, you can't kill. Remember that most of our actions are based in the SubConc so acting there isn't often dangerous.

The point about bad things happening: because most people are hypnotised at parties, and because most people don't understand hypnosis, if something goes wrong it's the hypnotist that gets blamed. For example a drunk girl may pass out on the floor near the stage. Supposedly the hypnotist must have done something and will be to blame for her "trance". The truth of the matter is she's so drunk she just collapsed, nothing to do with the hypnotist.

On a note about the above drunk example, it's apparently very common. However drunks are really hard to hypnotise and too much effort to work with (not my words, my mate Cole from uni was well into hypnosis, these are his words from my keyboard)


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You can brainwash/hypnotize someone against their will

1. sodium petrithal (truth serum)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_drug

you can make a ghetto version of this using valium or ruthy's

2. using physical trauma, torture, sleep deprivation

3. using brainwaves and or sublimals

4. remote influencing

5. High level NLP

Standard Hypnosis or NLP will not work!


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There are intriquities of the mind completely unknown to us. And no one knows the level of psychological damage her mind could undergo by getting hypnotised like this. Psychologists have only scratched the very surface of how the mind works. Its just far too risky and dangerous to be messing with stuff like NLP.


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Saro, I'm curious why you believe there could be levels of damage done. Have you read any papers about it? I've not been able to find any saying anything at all about any long term effects.

Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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