Hey guys, I've recently started to get in to the game a lot more seriously than I have before. I spent the last week going to malls and just opening girls to get over AA. So far so good. I've been doing situational, complement, and direct openers. So last night I decided to hit a club with my friends. That's where it all went to shit. I tried direct openers on the dance floor and after that failed I just tried introducing myself and kino escalating while holding a conversation. Every set I opened was completely non compliant and non responsive. Some even backed away as I was talking to them. I tried on and off the dance floor but got nothing. So in a last ditch effort I just tried asking girls if they wanted to dance. All negative responses to this and some even got pissed off at me for asking. I know just going up to girls and asking them to dance is lame but like I said it was a last ditch effort. So what was my problem? I'd like to blame it on the club and the girls cause it just seemed like a shitty place, but I'd really like to know if I'm doing something wrong. Maybe it was the way I was dressed: black button down long sleeve shirt tucked into black skinny jeans and dress shoes. Help here would be greatly appreciated!

First of all, Hi there and welcome.
I'm not sure if I'm the best person to welcome you since I'm also new to this forum.

I've read your post and I believe I can help you out.

I'm not sure wether you opened correctly in the first place. Clubs and malls are very very different. Notice your body language. You're probably not as confident in clubs as you are in the mall, much like myself, so first of all just try going to clubs not to meet girls but to have a good time with your friends, it will get you into a more comfortable mood while you're in the club, just like you feel in the mall.
Second, understand why girls go to clubs, the don't want to dance, they want to meet someone. You have to be that someone, but know that they have been approached a lot during their lifetime and they don't want another loser asking them to dance. Forget the dance floor, you can get there later, when you kick your game up a knotch, get off the dance floor for a while and just walk up to a girl and talk to her. Say "hi" and smile, she'll deffinatly respond to that, it's a social convention, and if she doesn't, don't take it the wrong way, she's just putting you to the test to see if you're one of those losers I was talking about earlier. Clubs are places where canned openers work best, and where social value is your best asset. While you say hi to her, wave to a different girl, and then get back to your target, ask her about your hairstyle and if she thinks you can score the girl standing next to the bar or whatever, disqualify her as a potential suiter to you, it will lower her defence and she'll be a lot more receptive to you. Either you do that or you use a false time constaint, ask her something and continue to hold the conversation.

Hope I helped a little.

-Kem

Thanks for your help man! I like the your idea for self-disqualifying. I gotta disagree with you on one thing though. I think girls do go to clubs just to dance with their friends and have fun and that's why they get so pissed when you try to dance with them or hit on them.

Trust me on this one. Girls are special creatures, they live to socialize and want it. They seek approval everywhere and always want to be more sociable. They'll even sleep with someone if it'll make their social status grow.

Clubs are places where girls can shine with their dancing moves, radiating sexual energy and not feeling weird about it. The only reason they get mad at you when you try to dance with them is because you're sending a sexual vibe, and they don't want it. I've went to a club recently and danced around a bunch of girls, and I didn't do it to meet them, I danced to have fun and enjoy myself, and that was the energy coming out of me, and that's why they enjoyed dancing with me too.

Another good routine in a club, is to meet people before you go inside, just talk to people, say hallo and smile, it radiates value. If you're peaocked then people will even remember you and say hello to you in the club afterwards and you've go yourself social proof. Try it. :)

-Kem