I was in a club last night and I must of been chatting to this American girl for a good hour or so. Now we we're having a really good time but she wasn't showing too many IOIs so I number closed and politely left.

Now, we 'jokingly' made plans to go and play badminton some time during the week, so I've got a good reason to get in contact with her.

My question is do I text/call and how long do I wait without seeming too needy?

When I get in contact with a girl, in the next day or so after number closing, I often end up putting the ball completely in their court and they usually become uninterested because of this. Is there anyway of avoiding this? Potentially it's because my text game isn't fun enough, opinions?

I think a lot of AFC's who are new to the game, like myself, have problems similar to this. So advice would be brilliant!

Cheers guys

Try this:

While You savin' her number type her name and add some nickname and let her know about it.
Last time I had a girl who I typed "Ann nice smile", or "Agnes frog" and next day or 2 days after You meet her , just txt her how is going you little "nickname" . It works for me, but You can try as well

take care

Call her up when you have the time to go play badminton, and directly ask her to go play. If she thinks your joking just tell her you're not. She'll be blown away by your confidence.

If she accepts to go play badminton, you're one step closer

1-2 days then text. least thats what i do. If you wait too long, they lose interest or just dont remember you. I dont like calling the person so much as i much rather talk to them while being there with them and honestly don't always have that kind of time to set aside to have a conversation. Course its a personal preference.

if she knows you were joking, keep it at that. No point in backtracking on your own story right? now if she didn't know, or if it was iffy, tell her we are going to go play badmington on ____day. just like how you make plans with your friends to go hang out, have that basic attitude. It 'should' naturally make you confident and funny or whatever you are with your friends.

If you meet in the night you should text that night, and then call that day. If you meet in the day you should call that night.

Otherwise she forgets what it's like to talk toyou and then feels wierd for even giving her number out.

It's not when you call that makes it seem needy, it's how you behave when you do. Txt is only a supplimentary thing, calling is where you show yourself.

Cool cheers guys, it seems to me like the key to all of this after reading your posts and others, is to try to keep it fun (I like the nickname idea a lot!) and if you're going to make plans keep them very casual.

I've had a bit of a brain wave ... I'm thinking that the amount of time you wait is related to how good a connection you make with the woman i.e. the bigger you think the connection you have made the longer you wait. Call them just before they forget about you, because ultimately they want you to call/text, and doing it at the last minute will surprise them the most. I obviously havn't tried this out but it make sense in my head. I think it applies slightly more flexible rules to the situation rather than something set in stone e.g. 1 day, 2days etc ... What do you recon?

Not nessecarily. I think you do have to judge when to contact them, but it has no relevance to the strength. When I've made a really strong connection, and called that night, it made it even better, they feel like "yes this guy is for real, this feeling is for real".

Once you number close get into a new thread and eject mid way.
That way you can send a text in a few minutes to hours about that topic without seeming needy and you'll stay fresh in her memory.
Then wait a day or two before calling again.