So I've read quite a bit about game, but I haven't seen anything on the transitional period between pickup and the relationship you choose.

I've been on about 5 dates with a girl and she wants to stop 'dating' and be my girlfriend. Of course I want to do more dating - I feel like I haven't even gotten started yet - and I want to keep seeing her as well.

The first time she told me she wasn't comfortable with me dating other people I gave her a good talk about how this is what dating is like and that I didn't like it any more than she does, but people date a bunch of different people before they end up moving into a relationship.

That cooled her down for a bit, but a couple dates later and she's back at it and trying to give me an ultimatum.

Of course I could lie to her, but I'm wondering if there is any 'dating' game/technique I can use to make her cool with just dating.

Thanks in advance for any tips. I do like hanging out with her and don't want to lose her over this.

You can't have both.

You will lose her if you don't accept her ultimatum - girls move on way easier than guys.

Either you go into a relationship with her (this is also experience - you will learn A LOT from this), or you ignore her and continue dating others. However, she won't stick around if you do that.

So it's really up to you.

Sh!# that's not the answer I wanted but thanks man for the advice.

I wonder how the MPUAs date 15 women at time - there must be a number of them who want to be their exclusive girlfriend...

talk to her about this.

tell her how you feel about this whole situation and then listen to what she has to say.

Eventually, both you guys need to draw a conclusion out of this. The longer you wait, the more she will get hurt.

there is a third option and this is how the mpuas do it. suggest an open relationship. Explain that she will be more than just some girl, you two can just hangout and be together, but your not looking for something exclusive right now, but if thats what you want later on, because you two will be in an open relationship, she would be one of the first to go for. The possibility that you two could end up in her idea of a relationship should be mouth watering enough to keep her around. Naturally, humans release more dopamine at the thought of something the want happening, the the event actually happening. EX We release more dopamine thinking of that juicy chesseburger than when we are actually eating it. Give her part of what she wants, but not the whole thing. This is the best way to do it because if she doesnt go for this, you resort to the two options you currently have.

I disagree with this option. Read the post again: This girl is emotionally attached to him and wants an exclusive relationship with him - because she can't stand him dating/seeing others.

Hence, your option is not acceptable in this case.

Follow my advice and talk to her about this.

In "the game" style was dating like 12 girls at one time. some of them wanted exclusivity but he refused to give it to them. They still were with him exclusively.

If a girl gets enough enjoyment from being with you then she can't just pack up and leave, even if you are dating other women, she'll feel obligated to stick around and, which I find hilarious, be faithful to you.

So I say, screw her ultimatum, just say you just want to be friends with her, you already know she's attracted to you, she'll accept because she wants to be with you and the fact that you guys are just friends will satisfy her logical mind saying she's a slut, and when she lets her guard down she'll give herself to you little by little. She won't try to get in your pants but she'll keep putting herself in situations that make it easy for you to get in hers.

--Johannes

girls move on way easier than guys...

wow that is so true and bad.

agreed your the man, adhering to the ultimatum also gives her some control which is a no no. Just tell her when and if I want to be exclusive with you I will let you know but this is how its gonna be right now.
She then might say fine, I dont want to date you anymore
then just say, Alrite you choose what you want to do
She will then most likely try to save it and continue dating you
there is a chance she will leave though, but at least you still have your balls

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Hey guys thanks for all the great advice - I wanted to provide an update. I think there's real merit to what everyone is saying...

So I gave her the 'I want an open relationship talk' which was about not rushing things and later on when I'm ready for an exclusive relationship she'd be a top choice.

At first it looked like it didn't work, and despite game and sexual game, I couldn't change her belief system.

But it turned out she was either bluffing or crumbled at the thought it was over. This is how it went down..she first sent me a text saying "I'm going to miss you". I replied "me too" and thought it was over. Then she said "it's too bad you want to end this' (possibly a reaction to my being willing to let go to get what I want). I said "Let's just take a break for now - never know what the future will hold". Then her response "What if we didn't take a break and I dated other people too?".

That was a few days ago. Today she snapped and told me to 'f-off' when I didn't respond to her text. We engaged in a solid back and forth texting and I'm actually quite impressed with her debating skills and ability to express herself.

What it means is that game works - this girl is head over heels for me, and she would take someone out if that's what was neccessary.

I'm not sure how this will play out, but if we ever have sex again it will be explosive. Otherwise, this will be a very high maintainance girl unless I can train her properly.

I'll let you know how things go...

With all due respect to style, his experience is his own (as is all of ours). He is a better PUA than I will ever be but he's not the type that girls "fall for". In my experience, if a chick has it bad for you she's NEVER going to accept you dating other girls ...even if she says otherwise. I got one girl to agree to a non exclusive relationship only to have her come unglued at spotting me in public with another girl. We all want to think this will work but unless you're a toad and she's "slumming it" with you, then it probably won't. Not the answer you wanted but it's a good one.

Correction: MOST girls move on way easier than guys...

Why?

Because MOST guys are AFC-CHODE-N00BZ

Your a PUA for fuck sake you can move onto any girl you want

Take the girl, my friend.

Cause if your game all of a sudden falls off

You'll be wishing you kept her around.

On the flip side,

If the relationship goes nowhere,

then you got nothing to worry about.

Especially if your game is tight.

Be Brave

There has been some massively chode advice on this thread. Seriously, if guys haven't been in this situation before and are just SPECULATING, this is detrimental t the OP. The OP is actually asking for advice from guys on this forum who know how to run MLTRs.

Not KJs. And not noobs.

Ok so, if you want to have several girls in an MLTR arrangement, you need to set the vibe and the frame from the very beginning of the interaction. Adam Lyons has a very simple and quick breakdown of the nitty-gritty of MLTRs and some reframing exercisies and patterns that you can do with a girl to help her understand what you want, in his "MLTR Handbook". This is a free ebook download, availale on his website.

I am not in any way, either socially or financially connected to Adam, but I can tell you that I have used the advice written in this handbook for the last year, and have enjoyed many many MLTRs with up to 7 high quality women at the same time, and all of these have started, progressed and (some of them have ended, life moves on for some people) with mutual respect, admiration and enjoyment.

In fact, I even got into an LTR earlier this year, was with this girl for 6 months, and through that time and some difficulties, my previous MLTR girls were always supportive, and great friends, without crossing the boundaries of intimacy as well.

And now when my relationship ended approx 7 weeks ago, who do you think was lining up to fuck me? Exactly.

So this is very possible to do, to maintain, and to have good enjoyment and success with. I attribute my success to what Adam wrote in his handbook, as well of course to supportive PUA friends who helped me, with these women I have always held the strongest frame, never taken any of their shit, always fucked them well, and made sure that I was clear and honest about my intentions, not leading them on.

In order for an MLTR to work, you must HOLD ON TO IT LIGHTLY.

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Bravo Switchmaster...

Ive been catching up on this pua forum all night (I'm working night shift right now) and this is the best advice I've seen all night...If you're never been in MLTR then DON'T GIVE ADVICE! One quality that ALL girls share is competitiveness... If you are straight up with the girl and state your position 9 times outta 10 she will stay around to compete with anybody you throw her way... She may give you an ultimatum but the fact is she s probably bluffing and will stick around to fight another day...

Just my EDUCATED OPINION... They will put on their best sex when in competition mode also... Later AFCs