So last night i was at a party. I was talking to the HB on a couch. I talked to her for fifteen minutes and she stayed interested. But then i realized i ALWAYS have this same problem. All through my freshman year of college and this summer i cant move on past regular conversation and we just keep talking... since Its mostly just a regular conversation so theres not much sexual tension. It just never gets anywhere. I guess this would be considered a mid game sticking point but Anyone got any advice for this problem?

Yes this is a pretty easy fix actually. You keep talking because you aren't getting sexual. Start using KINO right from the beginning. Use a light touch on the arm or whatever. It's the most important thing you can do. Then after talking a bit you have to escalate. Look for any opportunity to turn the conversation sexual instead of just staying on this boring path that goes nowhere. If you've got the girl in a conversation, that is half the battle. Watch the stealth seduction videos at the bottom of the homepage. He has some good techinques for amping up the attraction and turning things sexual.

It can feel awkward trying to turn the conversation but you have to! I like the techinique of just abruptly stopping and then looking at her nails. Just say "oh hey let me check out your nails. I like them." Then keep holding her hand or just start to play with it. If she lets you then just keep escalating from there.

this is one of the better responses ive got on the forum.... and yeah, i feel like if i make things awkward im risking it all but then again, the higher the risk the higher the rewards right. I think this will just take a lot of practice, hopefully after a couple attempts ill have it down. I never thought of just stopping abruptly and saying something like that but thats some good shit haha... thanks.

Cool glad I could help. You will definitely get the hang of it. It sounds like you already are able to have a good conversation which is very important. I can't stress enough the importance of KINO! Make sure you do it and right away.

Haha yeah the nail thing is how I hooked my ex. She actually got really nervous when I did it and pulled away and went back to her room (we met on a cruise). Most guys might have taken it as rejection but I knew it wasn't. She was just nervous. If that happens to you don't necessarily take it as rejection. It's easy to make a woman nervous, especially if they are into you.

Back when I really got serious and saw no results I took some advice from someone I thought would NEVER WORK. I basically stated to the girl within first five to ten minutes that she was completely sexy, and moved on from there. BASICALLY, don't assume or hope she'll think you like her, MAKE IT KNOWN either by being verbal or physical. I missed a looooooot of opportunities because of not doing anything. Just state to the next girl you talk to, "Wow, I like your laugh, you're reallllly sexy" say this with enthusiasm and it's golden.

alright this sounds easy enough haha, but can i ask you, what kind of responses did you usually get after you directly let her know what you think and how did you respond after. Also one thing... wouldnt this very possibly cause the girl to become uninterested seeing as how people want what they cant have?

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FAIL PROOF PICK UP LINE: excuse my, im sorry to bother you but my father beats me, can i have your number.

I have a pretty decent trick for this and it works on all girls. Look for every opportunity to say the following "...you make me ...so ...MAD!" Even steer the conversation to create opportunities to say it. Of course, it's feigned outrage and delivered in your most over the top comedic manner but it's foolproof because it presents them with a false choice: contend with the fact that you're really angry with them OR accept that it's a light hearted joke and run with it. Every girl will pick the latter. What you've done is created a micro tension and release cycle which while not specifically sexual is absolutely pleasurable for your target. Do this often in these types of conversations. Make it a central part of the dynamic between the two of you and things WILL turn sexual.

from at i understand of this it seems pretty genius. Can you give me a convo example of how this would work though... i am still a little confused on what you are saying. Also are you advising guys to say this to the same girl multiple times in one conversation?

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FAIL PROOF PICK UP LINE: excuse my, im sorry to bother you but my father beats me, can i have your number.

...interesting, you're making me thing about this more than I'm accustomed to. First of all the only important thing in the verbiage is that she "makes" you mad/angry/ pissed. If you say "I'm so mad at you" you're sunk. Remember that SHE has produced the state. And yes you play this little cycle whenever you can find the opportunity as eventually it becomes an inside joke between the two of you.

Convo examples are tough because as I said I'm not used to thinking about it consciously but... say she likes a rival sports team, or hates a music group or tv show that you think is great (you know, trivial shit)- these are all things that potentially make you "SO... MAD!" But remember, this is comedic feigned outrage. Examples of specific verbiage:

"Oh my god! You make me SO angry,"

"woman, you are making me so mad right now!"

"ooh, you are making me absolutely furious!"

After a while you can even turn this into a kino "...keep this up and I may have to put you over my knee!" ...and then do it.

Just remember, keep this lighthearted and comic.

haha alright that was well explained i understand it completely now. Haha im definitely using this. Thanks for the tip

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FAIL PROOF PICK UP LINE: excuse my, im sorry to bother you but my father beats me, can i have your number.