i have to say if you dont have to smoke you shouldnt it is bad, but if you are going to smoke, and its almost a pos ppl will keep smoking. smoke a hookah, the tabaco is more light ad raw, so you still get the tar, but thats it no other additives. and its a place to sarge. IE. the post i just wrote about afc wingmen. but you also get your choice of amazing flavors.

Still, smokings bad. think of it like a slurpie.
"at first you take a sip and you like hey its good im glad i did this, then the brain freeze hits and your like ow ow ow. then your stupid enough to take another sip."-- jeff dunham

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"there are no unknockable doors, there are no unwinnable wars."

two things--
first, i don't smoke cigs that often, but when i do i smoke clove blacks, and only when im drunk. i tend to smoke more cigars than cigs, which is definitely not a DHV for girls. most do not like the smell, and use to complain because the stench of a cigar is pretty equal to a cig. your throat, breath, clothes, all of it wreaks.

my second thought- there was thing HB9 smoking cigs at this party. i've known her for a long time and always negged her about smoking, how disgusting it was, how bad it smelled, etc. whenever i was at a house party with her and she was smoking, i would neg the shit outta her and make her feel worthless in my mind bc she smokes cigs. i would avoid her, and if she started a convo with me, i would say "finish ur cig and talk to me later". so about a week before we left for college, she was all over me because i was the only guy who refused her, or seemed to at least. this girl WAS the perfect suducer in my class. she knew everything a guy wanted and knew how to take advantage of that.
after she sat on my lap and proceeded to tease with the one second tougue hook up, she would say how we should "hang out" and she "Wanted to get to know me better". i gave in and said something that definitely insinuated that i gave in, and she overpowered me. she then dropped me like a fly.

my point in this story is if you are with a group of guys who DO NOT smoke socially, if ur sarging it is def good to bash some girls that do. or even better, the HB9 or 10 that does who has girl friends that doesnt who she is with. this girl i bashed would carry a cig around all the time, friends with everybody, but more solo than in the group. she got guys from different colleges, cities, etc. i made her feel insecure about her smoking habits, and insinuated that she could not have me BC she smoked cigs. neg the HB cig smoker, one or groups of two. if you are good with words (which you should be, or in the process of learning) then the fact YOU think cigs are bad WILL turn the girls on, considering they smoke, and they can't have you bc YOU do not approve. if anyone has any opinions or suggestions or additions to what i have said, i am open to it. -Rye

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"You're so money and you don't even know it!"

i don't think you guys have brought it up yet but you do realize negging a girl about smoking is an extreme DHV. I negged the girl I f-closed a few weeks ago so much that she's actually on the patch now. And also, every girl i've dated who's smoked quit because i negged her about it.

then again for those of you who've watched the movie The Hebrew Hammer know the trick to it.. it's called "the secret weapon"

hahah stealing my thunder man? check out the post i put up one before yours. it worked.. somewhat. and it definitely is not taken advantage of enough by PUAs.. -Rye

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I don't know about you guys but before I started smoking, girls who smoked was a big turn off. Now that I occasionally smoke myself, girls who smoke turn me on lol. Did that happen to anyone else?

So maybe it is another reason to start smoking... you start being attracted to more groups of girls. At least it was for me

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