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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:22 am 
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Hi guys!

I just joined and this is my first post, but it's a very complicated situation so I really need some good tips!

BACKGROUND

Ok, so two weeks ago I met this girl, who by my standards is an absolute 10. The best thing of all though is that SHE asked for my number, and I hadn't even been playing her! Apparently I'm that good, hehe.

No but really, I was just myself, and looking back I realize I actually did everything right without even having the intention. It was at a party with my friends, which we have regulary, so I can honestly say that it was the real me that she apparently fell for. It was a naturally ideal situation, and things just clicked.

It was just before she and her friends was heading home the next morning that she asked for my number, and we didn't make out or anything at this party, so we had no real quality time on our own, just goofing around with friends and being relaxed.

Now, since then we've spoken on the phone a couple of times, and it's going really well. So far at least. She has given many IOI's, and it's clear that she really likes me. But, we have not met in person since the party, two weeks ago! We're both very busy and haven't been able to find a day when we're both free.

MY PROBLEMS

1. I have a problem of ending up in the Friends Zone, and I really need to prevent this from happening again. We need to meet as soon as possible, or I'm afraid we'll lose momentum. I'm going to end up as official tech-support for her computer problems if we don't go on to the next step soon.

2. I'm absolutely broke! I have no money at all, and no one to lend from. Luckily, we both seem to share the same passion for simple, romantic movie nights, which are easliy arranged, if you only have somewhere to be at! My place is a very very temporary one, where I can stay until I get my cashflow working properly again, but it's nothing to invite anyone to, and she still lives with her parents.

She has given me plenty of signs that she is interested in me, but I need to play this right or the spark will fade.

Does anyone know how to manage this situation successfully? I need tips and advice!


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1. The answer to staying out of the friend zone is Kino. PLain an simple. If you are touching her it leads to sexual tension. The one place sexual tension DOESN'T lead is LJBF. IF a girl wants to get you into bed she won't say "LJBF".

2. Tons of really cheap or free dates. Hiking, Walks in the Park, Buy a piece of paper and Make a kite with her. If you live in the south.. you can dig up clay to sculpt with. Winter? have a snowball fight. Spring? Pick Wildflowers with her. Summer? Go to a lake/river and go swimming. Fall? Go to a Romantic Overlook and try to knock the leaves off trees. Go Window shopping for 'Your" perfect bedroom set. Find a Cologne. Billions of things. And you can search for more with the search engine. Look up Day 2 Locations.

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1. The answer to staying out of the friend zone is Kino. PLain an simple. If you are touching her it leads to sexual tension. The one place sexual tension DOESN'T lead is LJBF. IF a girl wants to get you into bed she won't say "LJBF".

2. Tons of really cheap or free dates. Hiking, Walks in the Park, Buy a piece of paper and Make a kite with her. If you live in the south.. you can dig up clay to sculpt with. Winter? have a snowball fight. Spring? Pick Wildflowers with her. Summer? Go to a lake/river and go swimming. Fall? Go to a Romantic Overlook and try to knock the leaves off trees. Go Window shopping for 'Your" perfect bedroom set. Find a Cologne. Billions of things. And you can search for more with the search engine. Look up Day 2 Locations.

EvoJ
can you elaborate on HOW to use kino? im an idiot with that stuff and ALWAYS am afraid to use it. i have the most intense fear of rejection. i can talk to any girl just fine, but i am so scared to try and take it to the next level that she would reject me.


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Don't worry about the time frame. I just hooked up with a girl who I only had text and email convos with for a month. Just don't talk to her too much or she'll get bored of you. Look busy!
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can you elaborate on HOW to use kino?
start with the elbow, forearm and shoulder. just touch her lightly when you are talking, especially when you make her laugh. If she starts touching you back, you're in! Start putting your arm around her waist, and pulling her close. Also touch her leg when you can. Move your way up to her face, caress her cheek, brush her hair behind her ear or off her face.

Fuck rejection! It happens to everyone. The key is not to give a shit. If she is not accepting of your advances, she is not worth your time anyway. Trust me someone out there will.

I have been using dominant vs. recessive genetic traits as a method for accelerated kino escalation. look them up. I have field tested them twice now with success. I start with the hands then the ears and finally the tongue. then I k-close.

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The answer to staying out of the friend zone is Kino. Plain an simple.
Yeah, that's true. Really have to work on kino esc, thanks. Activities tips were good too, already checking Day 2 threads.
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Don't worry about the time frame. I just hooked up with a girl who I only had text and email convos with for a month. Just don't talk to her too much or she'll get bored of you. Look busy!
Thanks man! That's exactly what I need to hear right now.

I think I'm gonna start writing her long e-mails, like real letters you know? I like to write, and that could be a great way to build comfort and interest, and attraction. You can do a lot of fun things and get very personal with letters. The best thing would be to write real ones by hand and send her, but I'll start with e-mails.

I have to make sure she doesn't feel too challenged to write something back that matches my ambition though, because I can really write a lot when I'm at it.
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If she is not accepting of your advances, she is not worth your time anyway. Trust me someone out there will.
Yep, very true. The #1 rule of being a PUA, or a human for that matter, is to never let anyone, including yourself, take your self respect away. The moment you lose that, you become unattractive on every level.
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I have been using dominant vs. recessive genetic traits as a method for accelerated kino escalation. look them up. I have field tested them twice now with success. I start with the hands then the ears and finally the tongue. then I k-close.
You could also tell her about erogenic zones determined by her astrological sign. I'm going to make my own thread about that now, so check it out later. :)


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I don't know about that writing letters homie. He said look busy, not have enough time you can write her a novel


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Yeah, good point.

It did work for me one time though. I met a girl online, and managed to seduce her mostly by extensive e-mails. She was actually very impressed by my abillity to write and concidered it to be a great DHV, and that was what separated me from the rest. She was a HB11 and had no shortage of BFs, yet she fell in love with me for real. It might have been a unique situation, but I'm confident that if handled correctly, letters can be very effective.

This is only for girls who feel a need to express themselves. That's what you should try to play on. If she feel the need to justify her position on something, or set things straight about some topic, or just likes to write poems or lyrics, that's when you could give her massive amounts of your thoughts, which she can't help herself to respond to. You could also impress her by writing short stories and funny dialogues, stuff like that. If things heat up, e-mail sex beats phone sex every time. Trust me on that one. If you only knew..


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don't get too romantic before you meet a couple more times. chat with her and what not but keep the sexual tension up.

For instance, there's a girl i'm working on right now who i've known for 3 weeks. She's been out of town for the last 2 weeks and since then we've talked for probably at least a total of 40 hours.. more than she ever talks to her boyfriend (and she keeps initiating it). As jilna says, it doesn't matter the time because as long as you can keep it sexually charged then you're fine. The best way i've found for this is over IM as there's more disconnection than over the phone but too much like over email.

You can even ask if she's adventurous and spontaneous. when she says yes tell her to clear her schedule for X day because you're taking her out for an adventure. If you're on the coast take her to the beach, if you're in the mountains take her hiking or to a waterfall, and if you're in the south.. i guess clay is an option.. but one thing that melts any girl is by the end of the night, take her to a park for the swings. no matter how old any chick is they love the swings.

good luck and take control dude


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Ok, so here's what I finally came up with:

I called up a friend of mine, whom she have already met, and asked him if he and I could arrange a movie-night, to which I could invite her. He and I have movie-nights quite often, so this was no problem for him, plus I happened to know that this girl also loves movies just as much as we do.

This means we could meet, but it's not a date, which is good. It will be more of a social gathering where we can hang out and be relaxed, and it requires no money at all, exept for snacks (yeah, we download). I even told her she could invite a friend, and help us pick some movies.

This is perfect! She'll feel very secure because she has already met my friend and brings her own, and she really looks forward to watching some movies.

I've noticed a ton of IOI's from this girl when I call also.

# "You can call me anytime"
# "Hi! I've actually been thinking about you!"
# Keeps asking me things just to have the conversation going.
# When she mentions someone she's been hanging out with, she is specific about what kind of friend it is. She says 'girlfriend' and 'a guy friend' like she wants to make it clear it's not a 'boyfriend'.

So all I have to do now is stay away from the Friends Zone, and we'll be fine. I'm very concerned about that though, because it's my nemesis. I usually plateau my game there.

It's time to get kino with her.

Any thoughts on this?


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