I actually just posted this in a thread, but it is our generation. We are becoming disconnected and distant with the real word, and people just text now. It's how it is. I know too many girls who don't answer their phone - they don't even want to talk on it (to anyone). They just text. So you either go with it or avoid it, but it might not work so easily.

my gSucces rate on depending what your goals are... oal is not getting laid but making appointments to see someone in real life / setting up dates.
i never had a flake, im serious.... of course someone will flake someday.
manipulation because when you are gaming online you can post pictures who don't represent you at all. You can create a totally different image from reality - when im sarging in real life i do everything in a natural approach and i don't use routines, but when im gaming online i manipulate the shit out of people.

the advantage of talking to someone online who you've met before ; you aren't limited with a small amount of text.... when you text message over you phone you can only say little.

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Some good stuff in there, regarding flaking and honesty. Though *if* you're really that good offline just stick with 'real' life!

Ice Man has only provide a few stats and as we know there are lies, damn lies and statistics. What about time involved and cost? let me give you my circumstances which make online game *for me* a good option. I live away from a major city (I live in Switzerland and stuck halfway between 2 'cities' Geneva and Lausanne - it takes me nearly an hour to get to either. In the time it takes for me to even reach a relatively big place (check Google Wikipedia etc and you'll see just how 'big' or rather small they are) I can have contacted over 50 girls online. I provided lots of stats on another thread. Financial Cost involved - Zero. Perhaps at a very large venue you can possibly 'meet' 50 girls in a similar time.

From Iceman's post

Here is my stats from online over the last 4 months:

70 women contacted
102 total emails
13 numbers
1063 texts
4 dates
1 close

That works out at about 1 woman contacted every 2 days - that's fuck all. If you're in or near a big city you could probably do at least 20 in a 3 or 4 hour period!
13 numbers and 1063 texts - makes it an average of about 80 texts per number . Surely some sort of mistake!

"Set up the date very quickly or just move on!" - very true in my experience

Not to get off topic, but you may seriously go thru the online game section here and read up on the threads here. As you need help.

This is very true. And it has taken a noticeable toll on society in general. As people are a lot more cliquish than before due to the internet.

It doesn't matter what your goal is, it is just impossible to have a 100% success rate. Because from day one you had to know what you where doing and I highly doubt that.
That doesn't mean you use manipulation in real life. Its just that you don't realize you are doing it in real life, as you are seeking out those attraction buttons to hit to get the girl. But you are doing it on a subconscious level.
No agrument there.

I average 2 dates a week from online game. Because we are pre-qualified I usually get at least a full on make out that night. Some dates fall flat and yes some look way better in pictures or there is simply no chemistry. And flakes are bad. But as I can put feelers out to several girls a day at work I'm able to get more dates then I would have if I didn't online sarge.

point blank, online sarging fucking sucks!
let's see I can go out for a couple hours at night do 3-5 sets and usually pull a number from one all while having fun and increasing my confidence.
ooor, I can sit at home alone on the computer and write emails to about 12-20 girls (4x as much right? WRONG) because out of all those maybe 2 will actually reply several days later and then it's much harder to get the number. all this while boring myself to death reading profiles and writing emails and feeling like a tool.
yeah, I'll take the first option

Lol,I agree Conspiracytheory. I agree.

valuable time wasted by sarging online-solely.

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Whilst online gaming shouldn't be the only avenue used it is still worthwhile to use it as another tool to game chicks.

I have been on POF and match.com since January. Already I have had 2 f-closes. Got another 4 potential f-closes that I have moved on to 2nd and 3rd dates with. Got a day 1 tomorrow with another girl. It is a good way to game when you can't be out on the street or in the clubs sarging.

My tips for online sarging are to NEVER text long conversations, always get them on the phone once you have their number. She will feel a lot more comfortable when she hears your voice.

Don't get me wrong, text game is good but when it is with girls from dating sites you have never met it is the wrong way to go. I don't use msn either. They are both wastes of time. Your goal should be to meet them in person as soon as possible. I don't waste my time with long conversations. Usually I get them out on a date within a few days or a week and if they aren't keen then on to the next.

Online is also great for building confidence and getting plenty of practice on dates. From my experience there are a lot of strange ones but quality girls can be found online.

LOL well .. i had a flake this morning hahahah....

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C'est la vie! It's always the way , once you get into a rhythm there will always come along something to mess things up.

I don't. I never do. What I do do however is use various online outlets to continue gaming girls I may have met elsewhere, as in in real life.

For example, I havent been into University for a while because of various health problems, so I used Facebook to mantain my relationship with them. I never cold approach any girls on a chat room or in a message board or anything. I just use online for girls I actually know.

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Interesting, do you think girls view actual voice to voice calls a hindrance? I certainly know that text is easier to control. Maybe going against the grain - and actually speaking to them would stand out.