I have been with this girl for a year and a half, I trust her and I do love her because she is Old school, I know for a fact that this girl wouldnt cheat on me, what I want to know is, she expects me to initiate everything, sex, kissing.. ect.. and I hate it, I am the deeply romantic type and nothing turns me on more than when she acts dominent and show me that she wants to kiss ME and she wants to fuck ME, I find that the freeze out technique works AMAZING for sex, its incredible and I have dont it three times, its perfect! but how can I persuade her to initiate to me?

This girl has been through a lifetime of abuse from her parents and countless loads of billsh!t that her family and friends have put her through,
she has always came back to me, always.
I met her in highschool hit on her or three classes and didnt see her for a year and a half, and one day she found me on facebook and asked for my cell number, after that we hit it off,
I have said some incredibly stupid things to her that caused her to not talk to me for two weeks, and she came back to me, she went to a SPAM center for 7 months, because she was deeply into drugs, and the first thing she did when she came back, was call me up and we started spending time togeather again, after bieing apart for 7 months without specifying wether or not we were still togeather.
she says she loves me because Im the only person that she can trust.

what can I make of this situation, we are so confortable togeather and she is smart, funny and playful.

And the best part is that this girl is a 9/10, and thats to a PUA, she could have any guy she wants, but she chooses me, why?

and what do I need to do to make this work, I am using alot of knowlage I have found on this forum but I need more specific information on general attitudes, and when I can see if she is giving me IOI's, I am rather blind to that for some reason.



I thought that all of that information was important, to show my exact situation, with no bulllsh!t.



Thanks for reading and I am open to any knowlage you may be able to throw my way, I am awaiting a vast wealth of knowlage.




-Narlo

You havnt made it clear what you need advice on... you seem pretty fine and she sounds pretty crazy about you.

I need advice on IOI's that she is giving me that I'm not picking up on, and how to push-pull, I have taken some of the proper steps, I used to be the one always calling and txting her, now I just dont give a fuck and let her txt and call me, and that is going over incredibly, also if she does somthing I dont like or says somthing I dont like, I show how unpleased I am, and I seem to be passing all of her shit tests but thats another world I need help in since she like to give lots for some reason, Im sure its just the way she is, but that is deffinitly a thing I need help with.

so
What are GF IOI's when she wants some panda, and what are shit tests or indicators of a shit test and what kind of response does she want? like what are her intentions with a shit test?

ahhhh I see.

Im sortof in a messed up relationship myself so whatever Il tell u are tricks I have used myself.
Let me tell you a bit about it tho.

Iv been dating this girl for months now, almost half a year. She ditched an LTR for me so at first we were taking it slow, then we finally became an official couple, then I got too needy so she broke up with me. Wen she broke up, I snapped and all the things I learnt as a PUA came rushing back. All I did was say: Its over? Ok, bye. And then I hung up the phone. She thought she had me so she didnt want me, and now that while ending it, she didnt get a whiny kid but instead an alpha who has other options, she called me back 8 times in that one night alone! The next day I decided to pick up and since then wev been dating unofficially. Shes madly in love with me and its so obvious.

Now this chick is an 8.5 (her body is a 10 tho haha) and shes ridiculously confidant. Shes such a tough shell to crack and I guess thats why Iv had so much trouble leaving her and moving on and why I put up with this breaking up getting back together crap to begin with.

Here are my keys to a successful relationship. They work for the toughest, proudest, most stubborn, picky, independent girl in the world, and managed to turn her into the cutest girl (in personality) I have ever met.

For txts and phone calls, I have a 3 strike rule:
for every 3 times she calls me, I call her once.
for every 3 times she initiates txting, I initate txting once.
for every 3 times she talks to me first on msn, I talk first once.

*Note: be sure not to overdo this. If she doesnt txt you one morning, first dont freak out, and second, DONT, I repeat, DONT txt her anyway. Remember the rule!
Lemme give you an example: This morning, my girl didnt txt me good morning. Now I missed her, and considered txting her instead, but what does that say about me? It sends the message that shes aloud to slack. That if she doesnt make the first move, I will anyway. So as a result, shes gna stop txting cuz she knows I will anyway! YOU DONT WANT THAT. If I wake up earlyer then her, I will txt her good morning. Not because I have to but because I WANT TO. Make sure you understand this exception properly.

Another thing I noticed is that women are massively powerful beings. All those techniques and tips we learn as PUAs? Like negs, DHVs and freeze outs? Yeh, those are BUILT IN TO WOMEN genetically! I cant tell you how many times my girl has frozen me out IN MY OWN BEDROOM -.- lol

How to react? At first I had so much trouble which is why my relationship kept going up and down, I FINALLY figure it out. Its so simple... DONT!
When she teases you about something while you guys are watching a movie... just keep watching the movie! DONT show imperfections, and if she spots them, dont make excuses for them.

If she starts to give you attitude, I use a technique that works 100% of the time - I promise. Its like a mini freeze out but I call her on it. Ex: My girl starts giving me attitude (every girl has those days where she just feels like being a bitch), so Im on the phone with her and shes giving me attitude, like actually being mean and unresponsive.

So I said: Listen kid(its a neg, women hate being treated like an immature brat), your obviously in one of those moods where you feel like being a bitch. Now if you take it out on your friends or family, I could care less, just not on me. That stuff may have flown with your ex but not with me. So heres whats going to happen (make sure you say that in a matter of fact voice, not an angry one. Remember, shes being a kid, so you dont take her seriously, ur not affected, you just wont put up with it) Im going to hang up the phone, and your only allowed to talk to me when your going to be cute again.

Her: (still in her bitchy mood) And what if I never start being cute again and never call you back?
Me: Then we just wont talk anymore.
Her: okay
Me: okay (REMEMBER, SHES JUST TESTING YOU!) Bye
Her: bye

She txted me twice that night saying sorry, I didnt reply.
Now here is where most people screw up their relationships and YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS MISTAKE IF U WANT TO KEEP HER!
Most people will keep a grudge. They'l want their girl to grovel and beg for forgiveness. Dont be an ass, just accept the apology!
I left her sleep on it, and the next morning she texted me saying "Goodmorning baby:)" And I answered back! "Hey pretty girl " and proceeded to act as if nothing happened. BELIEVE ME, she notices (My girl even talks to me about it sometimes, how Im so much more mature than anyone shes ever dated before."

Anyways I have more tips if youd like to know, but the basics are this: 3 strike rule, act unaffected, but dont let her push you around. Its super simple

take care mate

PS: You live in Canada? please say montreal haha

Legacy

Very nice spiece of advice.. Thanks...

now about the 3 strike rule... like you said... it just important that you dont txt her because she didnt text you!.. you should text her cause you wanted to!

Her disrespectful and childish act should not affect you in anyway...

Although.. when you get a more well-grounded relationship (like towards marriage)
It's important to sometimes be AFC... but still, doing it in a non-afc way..
Like saying sorry when she really needs to hear it ect..
But when you get that far... all rules dont apply anymore.. new rules come, and only you know what rules, cause you will start making your own rules that will just fit you and her.. for a healthy relationship.