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I was bored watching TV and my mind wandered liked usual and I think I stumbled across a logical reason why looks mean shit. This theory is in general terms like most assumptions made in PUA however I reckon looks only account for 10% of the average interaction and here is why!

You often hear the saying "What we fear in others is what we are ourselves" (something similar to that) basically because our mind is subjective. If for example your in a very negative mood you view the negative things in other people more than focusing on the good things. Our mood affects the way we see the world which is why when you are in state girls seem sooo easy :)!. Think of how men mostly think when they see a girl in terms of what attracts. Looks is usually the first thing that comes to mind and is why the HB rating system is so widely used in almost all field reports. Men are visual creatures! We love to look and although a girls character plays a part in attraction we feel it is up to ourselves to attract through our words and actions.

Because we as men are visual we assume it is the same for girls! Most assume that because we have a fun little rating system and base so much attraction on looks that girls must think the same through our subjective mind (not sure if subjective is the correct word).

Women on the other hand who tend to be more clued up about social situations and for me they view every stranger guy as chodes until something through their actions or words change that. Think of that time when you seen a good looking guy not have any girls around him because hes being chodey! However when the initial hook point is there women tend to analyse what they say more as they themselves get attracted to words more than looks. Sure looks help but if you get attraction it means shit due to a thing called backwards rationalisation.

Backwards rationalisation can be explained from this simple scenario. HB10 gets attracted to an average looking guy. HB 10 knows that guy is using words to attract her but how is it possible for her to get attracted this much? OMG average guy suddenly looks like Brad Pitt thats why she must like him so much! Look at that cute little spot over his eye. Her mind is then rationalising why she likes him so much but it is to do with the attraction that the guy created through words and actions.

I had to write that down so it was out my mind :). Anyways back to TV...


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hahahh it was worth reading the wall of text, its a true statement

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Looks are like a car.
If you cant drive it doesnt matter if you have a ferrari or a skoda.
But if you can.......... than it hell does fucking matter.

If two PUA's have exactly the same game, and one is a lot better looking than guess who is getting laid? ahahahahaha

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It only takes one line to have better game than another guy ;).


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Yeah but you cant compare a sexy sixpack with one line :wink:

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Looks matter, but you can still get woman if you are not a rockstar, it will just be harder :)

If you are not good looking, you need to do the approaches. While the good looking guy might get approached at clubs.


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Yeah but you cant compare a sexy sixpack with one line :wink:
Yes you can compare the two.


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Sixpack shows that you have money, health, good lifestyle, that you take care of yourself, that you are high value male,......and what's more important: You cant fake a sixpack! And you CANT fake all of the DHV's I said above.

You can fake ANY line. And all the DHV's you CAN fake with that line.
Any loser can learn few DHV stories... and girls know that.

With good looks all that matters it's that you know how NOT to fuck up when girl is chasing you. So you still need some of the game.
But without good looks you have to create that situation of girl chasing you with your personality. So it's twice as hard.

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If you compare a chode line to a PUA line the PUA will win even if he aint got the chode 6 pack.

Chode "Hey do you know I have a 6 pack"
PUA: "Your so adorable its fucking weird"

I know who would come on top. Also what a girl says attracts her is usually different to what actually attracts her


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Yeah but what if a guy just wear a shirt in a way that shows his sixpack and not say anything?
He just wears a see through shirt and that's it. And speaks about some other things and NOT mention about his 6pack.

The other PUA has to talk for 10 minutes to get on the value level where he is. to show that he has health, money, and all other important DHV's. And belive me you can fuck up a lot in those 10 minutes.

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Yeah but what if a guy just wear a shirt in a way that shows his sixpack and not say anything?
That's called trying too hard, I've known my girl friends to pick up on that sort of stuff.
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Sixpack shows that you have money, health, good lifestyle, that you take care of yourself, that you are high value male
Not having a sixpack shows that I have more sense than money as I'm not wasting it going to the gym as I'm not fat. It also shows I have much better and far more interesting things in my life to do than go to the gym.

Not having a six pack shows I have an interesting lifestyle and that I am a high value male.

Who are you to tell me I'm wrong? Everyone is different. I know girls that love skinny guys like me, and some are fit - that's all that matters.


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That's called wearing whatever the fuck you want. Rockstars wear that kind of shirts all the time, becasue they dont give a fuck what others think. And with that wttitude you can wear whatever the fuck you want. the stronger frame wins.

When a girl looks at your sixpack you say ''my eyes are up here'' ahahahahaha. You can create so much of a sexual tension with a sixpack that's not even funny. It's like dingling a carrot in front of the eyes of a girl.


Of course...everyone is different..... that's why goodlooking guys get more girls :lol:
Looks are not needed to get a girl but it sure helps you a fucking lot.

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Looks matter, but you can still get woman if you are not a rockstar, it will just be harder :)

If you are not good looking, you need to do the approaches. While the good looking guy might get approached at clubs.
perfect.


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Yeah but what if a guy just wear a shirt in a way that shows his sixpack and not say anything?
He just wears a see through shirt and that's it. And speaks about some other things and NOT mention about his 6pack.
Girls pick up on that kind of "wearing whatever you want" ...
Its like them. .. they wear mini skirts and tight blouses cuz they want to be seen and they know they're hot to wear them ... They don't think "Im gonna wear this because I want ... and dont give a shit what people think" ... They think " Im gonna put this on to be the center of attention."
A guy using a see through shirt ... girls instantly know he is showing off...


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I was bored watching TV and my mind wandered liked usual and I think I stumbled across a logical reason why looks mean shit. This theory is in general terms like most assumptions made in PUA however I reckon looks only account for 10% of the average interaction and here is why!

You often hear the saying "What we fear in others is what we are ourselves" (something similar to that) basically because our mind is subjective. If for example your in a very negative mood you view the negative things in other people more than focusing on the good things. Our mood affects the way we see the world which is why when you are in state girls seem sooo easy :)!. Think of how men mostly think when they see a girl in terms of what attracts. Looks is usually the first thing that comes to mind and is why the HB rating system is so widely used in almost all field reports. Men are visual creatures! We love to look and although a girls character plays a part in attraction we feel it is up to ourselves to attract through our words and actions.

Because we as men are visual we assume it is the same for girls! Most assume that because we have a fun little rating system and base so much attraction on looks that girls must think the same through our subjective mind (not sure if subjective is the correct word).

Women on the other hand who tend to be more clued up about social situations and for me they view every stranger guy as chodes until something through their actions or words change that. Think of that time when you seen a good looking guy not have any girls around him because hes being chodey! However when the initial hook point is there women tend to analyse what they say more as they themselves get attracted to words more than looks. Sure looks help but if you get attraction it means shit due to a thing called backwards rationalisation.

Backwards rationalisation can be explained from this simple scenario. HB10 gets attracted to an average looking guy. HB 10 knows that guy is using words to attract her but how is it possible for her to get attracted this much? OMG average guy suddenly looks like Brad Pitt thats why she must like him so much! Look at that cute little spot over his eye. Her mind is then rationalising why she likes him so much but it is to do with the attraction that the guy created through words and actions.

I had to write that down so it was out my mind :). Anyways back to TV...
Some good stuff in there. But no ones mentioned age yet...my theory is that younger girls place far more attention on looks than you'd think, particularly fashion. I would even go as far to say that under 25s are obsessed with looks as much as men! The older they get the more they realise it's NOT a good indicator of character and so start to get a bit more lenient...however the 'hunk' is always close to their mind.

If looks account for 20% of attraction just make sure you're as clean and good looking as you can be. Work on the other aspects of your life too.

I think Gunwitch has an excellent and easy few rules about looks and game. He says that looks plus game divided by two equals the level of babe you'll get. So a 10 looking man putting minimal effort will easily get 5s 6s and 7s. Gunwitch also said that for a long term relationship it's unlikely you will sustain a relationship with someone far too different in looks rating. So a poor looking guy rated 1 in looks could be excellent at game a 10 but will get those 6s and 7s. In a relationship he'll be lucky to have a 3!

The best thing about being male is that our looks are far more subjective than womens


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