New opener i've been developing...



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:07 pm 
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I just really like the first three lines. I wonder what the response would be if you just stopped there and gave her a big shit eating grin, but good stuff man


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:06 pm 
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Ok here is something i've been playing around with in my head, I havnt tested it yet.

You see a HB walking past you...

You: excuse me but do you know what time it is?
Hb: sure! it's (insert random time)
You: Nope im sorry but your wrong.
Hb: No it's (insert time)
you: See as long as you live your life by that this (grab watch or phone hand start kino), you'll always be a slave to it.
Hb: ( something along the lines as "well how do you see it"
you: Well ok, for example, ask me what time it is.
hb: ok...what time is it.
You : now
hb: what?
you: its not yesterday, or 10 minutes ago...and its not tomorrow or an hour from now... It's just now. When you learn that you'll be able to really live life.
hb: smiles*
you: see when you take each breath likes its your last, you really start appreciating everyone of them.

then onto name exchange and such...i've got my own ways but everyone is different.

This is what i've been working on, might field test it tomorrow...

Let me know what you think.

Bama
Good try but..
That is a horrible opener. If I was a woman on the receiving end of that pick-up I'd say "Who the fuck are you trying to educate"?

Remember this "Keep it light and fun".


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:15 pm 
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Well, I number pulled a hb 9 with it today...and had her eating out of my hand. She was unsure of me at first kinda but I just kept neggin with comments like Naive and such.
you are lucky she stuck around. I believe your success was due to the negs you hit her with. Negs are so key to picking up girls.

Could you please list the Negs you used?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:24 pm 
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you are lucky she stuck around. I believe your success was due to the negs you hit her with. Negs are so key to picking up girls.

Could you please list the Negs you used?
Wrong.Negs are a TOOL to pick them up,not the deciding factor.

So much depends on the presentation,the approach,how congruent you are with the material,and how well you can keep your composure.

Thatbamaguy probably executed that(I'll be honest,ineffective)opener,and it came out with near-perfect form,to the point where the girl responded more to his confidence and congruety than the neg itself.

Read up some more on the material papo.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:16 pm 
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Hmm, I think she responded to the confidence more than anything. I used the "crusty stuff in her eye" neg...made it casual...then just kept talking. Then I said something....a big word..she called it. I cant remember what I actually said for some reason. I told her she should invest in a dictionary, and made her laugh with a big shit eating grin.

I had another thought too. With me, when I game, its not really about what opener I use, to me they are just ways to initiate conversation. Which I know thats what they are for...but I dont really think about it when I start. I just kinda say the first thing that comes to my mind...with total confidence.

Also...It's alot of fun to open with a neg...sure its a 50/50 chance you'll come off like a dick, but when it works out...I find it jump starts the whole pickup.

Bama


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:02 pm 
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whoa, hey i kind of use this same opener for moving targets, i made it up myself... but i use DHV after i open... i'll show you

*walk past any HB, turn your head*

PUA: Excuse me, do you have the time?
HB: It's 4:14
PUA: wow, hey you know what i noticed, whenever i ask my friends what time it is, the guys always round off their time. i think that's because unconsciously they want to end the conversation as soon as possible, probably because it's irrelevant
HB: *looks interested* blah blah blah
PUA: yea but the girls always give me the exact time, is that because they're more open to talking to people(strangers) or because they're more honest
HB: *if she says they're more honest or both*

*go into next routine* I use this one:
PUA: So you're saying guy's lie more than girls

oh wait, dont forget to time constraint before the next routine... that single tool is genius, especially if it looks like they have somewhere to go...

so before the next routine just say "i actually have to get going, but one more question before you go. so you were saying that girls are more honest, does that mean you think guys lie more than girls? blah blah blah"

If she says they're more open to talking to strangers it's usually an IOI.... I get usually get smiles, huge EC, etc...

Either way you can take it from there...

Oh and back to the beginning, if they say like 4:40 instead of 4:42 or something, you can just start like this: "did you round that off? You know my friend(or sister or whatever) was just telling me that people who round their time off aren't as open to talking, and they usually just want to end the conversation as fast as they can, i don't believe that but do you think that's true?"

then go back to what I stated earlier...

I actually advise you make up your own crap, it's better for you in the long run.... i've been using this for a while and improvise it on the spot... that's what usually happens after something has been in the can for a while

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