Hey guys,

As usual your help is much appreciated!

I have a small issue I need some help with.

I phoned this girl hb9.5 2 times - 2 days in a row.
1st time, day 1, I rung, got the answering machine, and as I was about to call back she rung me back - success.

2nd time, next day, she picked up first time and we had a small chat.

Now I am wanting to arrange to see her again next time I phone her. So, should I leave it a day without phoning, and then ring her and arrange it? Maybe that would show me as not being desperate, or would it blow my chances?

Or should I phone her next day?


Thank you guys

Please guys help me out, I need to know within the next 6 hours
Thank you!!!

Why didn't you arrange a date one of first two times you talked. You're not a red wine. You're close to looking desperate already. Skip today, call tomorrow.

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I read somewhere that calling them a couple times without the intention of seeing them makes them curious, and put some more effort into meeting you.

Is that wrong?

So only phone when you want to arrange something?

thanks guys

I have to agree with Mech... We're not women... Obviously women know this, and when men call ANYONE we have a purpose... This purpose should be getting together for a face to face...

PUA: "What are you thinking about?" = BAD

bro what i say is let the bitch hang, show her that she's not themost important thing in your life, make it seem like there's tons of other girls out there waiting to jump on your cock!!

phone in another 5 days this will give off that effect that you dont need her that badly (even if you do) phone and say "oh so sorry i'v just been oh so caught up lately, i havent had much sleep lately" implying you've been goin out alo

fatboy,

listen bro, I just went through a bunch of phone/text drama shit, not returning calls and what not.

the fact she called you back shows that she's willing to play along, but yes I totally agree with everyone else, you need to have a purpose when you call from now on. If she is thinking deep about it (which you want her to be) then she was probably like "why the fuck didn't he ask me out? maybe he has a gf? maybe he isn't really interested anymore? Which is great and all -

however, you can take advantage of your situation by waiting 3 to 5 full days with NO CONTACT. No text/calls/anything. No longer than that though or she'll drop interest all together most likely and you'll just be a joke. When the 3-5 days are up, call her up with some spontaneous shit. I call it my nut-train technique that was actually true at one point in time:

"hey, it's rocket"
"oh hi how are you?!"
"great. i just had the best tasting nuts ever. they were these crazy marcona almonds from spain, good stuff."
"ok..." don't let her talk too much, you're in a rush remember?
"hey i have to catch a train in a sec, but let's grab dinner on monday"
"i can't do anything monday my schedule is packed"
"what days are you available next week?"
"umm, wednesday and thursday"
"thursday after 7:15, perfect. meet over at my place and we'll head out when you get here" or if you'd prefer to pick her up do it but it's easier to get them comfy when you're coming back to your house. or if you live alone you could surprise her and cook up your own pasta or some shit. that works every time.

etc.

don't waste any more time on the phone with this girl than you have to - you're already pushing it.


Give us an update on whats up, cause it's been 2 days so maybe you already made your next move... Hopefully not.

Ok thanks guys.

The update - she texted me during Tuesday and we ended up meeting up the place where we were meant to meet up (the reason I got her number in the first place.)

Then texted a little more that day.

Now I am going to take your advice, leave it a few days, and then phone her and tell her to meet up with me. It will be the weekend so perfect reason to meet if there is a party or something else going on. Then if I can isolate, I will go for the K close so that I do not get LJBFd.


This sound good?

Oh and also she told me she wants to be single for a while. Not random during the convo we were talking about her exes, and I said I love being single and it would take someone real special and different for me to date them. Was that a good reply?

Thank you guys your help is much appreciated

"I love being single and it would take someone real special and different for me to date them."

Seriously you couldn't have said anything better than that. I mean, it's literally perfect. There's no way I could have conjured that up on my own, if I was in that situation I'd probably just mutter something retarded like "Yeah, I don't know what I'm looking for really." So thanks for the lesson, I'll try to read that line over and over throughout the next couple weeks.

No communication today and tomorrow would be great. Go find some shit to do too so you have a good story about how exciting it was to cut the grass, or whatever. Don't think too hard, it'll play with you. You've already hung out once so she's comfy, move into the intimate stage and kiss her next time you get an opportunity. You have to be on an ACTIVE WATCH for the opportunity, keep it in your mindset always.

This sounds really easy for you, don't make it harder than it is dude. She's way into you and has been actively pursuing you. Keep the chase going. Be glad you don't have to transition the chase too, she's the one that is going after you. Perfect.

gl, you got this one in the bag

rocket

Thanks mate, that is good to hear

So I will not communicate with her until Saturday? Then I will ring her up, tell her I can't talk long because I have to get ready for a party (even if I am not actually doing anything) and arrange to see her during the week some time.

Not really sure what we should do date number 2 though, I want to be able to Kclose for sure. I know there are lots of ideas for a day 2, but what are some good ones where you can Kclose?

Thanks again guys, I love you all (in a non-homo way )

I don't see why you would communicate with her today or tomorrow. There's just no reason. You have things to do, remember? She is just some random girl...

And yes that sounds fine. "Hey, what's up?" blah blah "Real quick before I head out tonight, I wanted to see if you were available either Tuesday or Wednesday night after 7:15?" Whatever, you'll figure out something to say. If for some reason she says no to those, "Alright well I have to go, let me know if your schedule changes." or you can persist and ask her what days she's available, just don't be too available for her. (this is a totally fine option, because she's the one chasing you, so it's not like you have to appear ridiculously busy, just keep the challenge going) "I can do thursday?" Don't tell her yes, say you'll get back to her about it and call Sunday afternoon to confirm. Easy.
This is another one of my personal major problems. I'm too specific with dates and locations and times and all that garbage. Women hate it - from my experience at least. And it's bit me in the ass multiple times. Maybe it's because I'm dealing with college girls, I don't know, but none of them are on a schedule and it's ridiculous. When they have class, they are at class. When they have work, they are at work. But any time after that, they "don't know" what they're doing. But anyway, think of something different like going out for sushi.

And like I said earlier, get her to your house first if you can. Makes it easier than hell to work things out that way after you come back from dinner/hanging out/whatever.

Cleared it up for me thank you its crystal in my mind now

Cheeky I like that thanks!
I dont think that is an option with this girl, she lives in a dfferent town to me (but comes here every day for different things.) So she would have to train into this town, then get a bus to my area. Unlikely lol
But I will bear that in mind though.


I will let you know how it all goes, will update as I go. Thanks for all your help

An update guys - now I REALLY need your help. This should hopefully be the last thing I need help with to seal the deal (I want a LTR with this girl.)


She texted me late last night (after 2 day non communication) saying basically:

'Hey babe ...

I just got a lecture on how you're the type of guy I should be with because (random reason.)'



So, I replied an hour later (didn't have my phone on me) saying:

'Well, HB, you never know... If you play your cards right x'



Then I bumped into her in town today, we both were with a friend, so no talk of the subject. Just small talk, for about a minute.

Now I ask, keeping in mind I would like a LTR with this girl - what do I do now? I am actually clueless.


Thank you so much guys for all your help - You have gotten me this far. I am truly appreciative of all of your help

-Fatboy

If she is telling you that she was told to be with you its a big hint that she wants it so either go running into her arms or wait it out and tease her show her a growing interest and make yourself seemed burden by her time but it doesnt matter if she returns the favour and makes time for you then your in.