Ok so im doing a freeze out on this HB8 right now becuase she came home, was a total bitch, i confonted her rigth before she went back and she wasent really sorry, then i brought it up again on the phone and she made it out like it was my fault. so here i am 2 weeks into a freeze out. should i
a) not call and just let it take its course which most likely will be us never speaking again, or
b) call or e-mail her, to break the freeze tell her I've been super busy and for her to give me a call after the weekend

I searched around for more info on this topic and there is not allot. this might be a good thread for all. Any suggestions, experiences, what ever would be fantastic, because I'm new to the freeze out game, but not to PU.

Is she really a huge loss?

Why worry about the HB8, when you can go out and get a 10

It's a numbers game,Steve Rogers.

While freezing out the HB8,go cook up 2 HB9s,a 10,and and old friend who suddenly became interested.

While the dollars are circulating,go invest in some Yen,Francs,and some Pesos while you're at it.

Dont ever call out a woman on the phone.
Because it will make her uncomfortable talking to u on the phone.
A freeze out wont work after that because she would wanna talk to u anyway because u make her feel uncomfortable..
so u did her a favor in a freeze out..She didnt have to waste her breath telling u shes busy u already did it for her..
remember u have to DHV and not care.
its stead of being the guy who got mad and called her out on her shit..
what u did was a DLV..U demonstrated lower value.

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Im in the same situation right now. I dont know how long i should wait to give her a call or not? The HB is really mad because i didnt go to a BIG EVENT with her and now she said she would never talk to me no more. Before the event so is it over? or should i just try to make up with this bitch? and how?

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Learn what a freeze out means

I'll give you a hint:
"Not talking to her" is not it.

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LOL. 2 weeks into a freeze out? Freeze out is a very temporary tactic, something to be done quickly until someones attention is back focused on you. What your doing is more like, playing childish relationship games that she probably won't buy.

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OK so far there have been allot of VERY right statements. I should not have called her out on the phone DLVing myself. And this is a childish game she is def not buying, LOL. So whats left? just let it go?

Romeo that is my question. what exactly does freeze out mean and what is the correct way to go about performing one?

I've written this so many fucking times...

A freeze-out is a tactic used to eliminate Last Minute Resistance. When you're getting hot and heavy with a girl, and she suddenly says "Hey, we should slow down," or one of the myriad variants, you stop paying attention to her. Got get a glass of water. Start playing with your cell phone. Put your pants on. Whatever. She will come back looking for your attention again, and you can push just a little further with her than you could five minutes ago.

What you are doing is not a freeze-out. What you are doing is ignoring your Long Term Relationship. And that ignorance is making whatever problem she had with you worse, because she can now see what a terrible douche-bag you are. You can't raise your value to her if you're not talking to her. You cannot correct the issue in your relationship because you cannot state your intentions without communicating with her.

And to be perfectly honest, if she is making it out to be your fault, something is your fault. Not necessarily the things she's saying is your fault, of course, but you've definitely fucked up somewhere. If you're already two weeks into your damned-fool ignorance, I'd say you guys are done. Learn from the experience, never do it again, and go find yourself a few new girls.

Learn to communicate through problems effectively. It'll help for next time.

Also, learn the jargon, because this is a newbish lingo mistake and doesn't belong in the lounge. You sussed yourself when you said you're "new to the freeze out game, but not to PU." If you're new to freeze-outs, you're not as experienced in pick-up as you think.

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right on! Thanks for the info thats how I learn. Good luck sarging this weekend I hope you pull lots of HB's.