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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:47 pm 
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I see in here so many posts AFTER someone got a number... i.e. "I got her number, now what?"

But what about the events that led up to getting the number? How do you actually ask for the number?

I don't mind the "Hey, lemme get your number" - but in some situations it seems awkward (although I try to play it off as if it isn't - so she may not find it awkward).

Does anybody have any creative ways to ask for a number? I like to ask within 5 minutes of convo - I don't like working all night for it... If I get rejected I want it to be within the first 5 minutes so I can easily move on.

I'm just looking for some quick techniques that lead up to and actually asking for the number...

In the past I would [trick] the girls into thinking it was their idea to giving me their number (pulling my phone out.... asking how we can stay in touch, etc...). But I just want a well-worded direct approach for asking for a number. What are some of y'alls experiences?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:10 pm 
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I see in here so many posts AFTER someone got a number... i.e. "I got her number, now what?"

But what about the events that led up to getting the number? How do you actually ask for the number?

I don't mind the "Hey, lemme get your number" - but in some situations it seems awkward (although I try to play it off as if it isn't - so she may not find it awkward).

Does anybody have any creative ways to ask for a number? I like to ask within 5 minutes of convo - I don't like working all night for it... If I get rejected I want it to be within the first 5 minutes so I can easily move on.

I'm just looking for some quick techniques that lead up to and actually asking for the number...

In the past I would [trick] the girls into thinking it was their idea to giving me their number (pulling my phone out.... asking how we can stay in touch, etc...). But I just want a well-worded direct approach for asking for a number. What are some of y'alls experiences?
I just want to point out that asking girls number within 5 min may not be the best way because eventough she would give you her number it doesent mean that she aswers when you call or goes out with you because she doesent feel comfortable enough. Mystery explaind in one of his videos that 20-25 min is good ammount of time to spend with a girl before asking it.

Well anyway, here is a link to a another forum where is some mystery method number closes:

http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/04_S ... sing.shtml
( I hope this is allowed to put another forums link here ?? )

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:26 pm 
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Some thoughts:

-I'm working on getting this down now. It's seeding the conversation earlier where you talk about something fun and cool you're going to be doing soon (but you DON'T invite her), then near the end of the convo, you tell her she should come to that and immediately do the "rip a piece of paper in half" number close. When I've done it, it's great and it almost guarantees a non-day 2 flake.

-I usually like to talk for 10-15 minutes before number-closing (although I think of it as "plan-closing" now since we're only exchanging numbers to have the plans we already talked about, not to just haver her number...cool mindset.

-I've gotten numbers in tons of different ways...most fit my cocky/funny mentality. Yesterday, I was walking with an HB8 and I said to her:

Me: When are you going to sop being such a wuss?

Her: (gigling) What do you mean?

Me: I mean, when are you finally going to man up and ask me out?

Her: (laughing excitedly now, thinking for a second) ...but I have a boyfriend.

<bad research on my part, I didn't actually know she had a b/f (on a side note, she sure does give buku-IOI's for a girl with a boyfriend). Regardless, had I known that, I wouldn't have asked her this way, but I recovered all right. See below..>

Me: Yeah, I know...I could tell. (then I did th whole thing about how well he must treat her)

Her: <starts saying "well, no, he doesn't do all of that, etc.>

So I just said this:

Me: Well, I tell you what...I need some more friends with boyfriends.. (turned my head to the other side and said under my breath loud enough for her to hear)..like I don't have enough already.

Why don't you come with me tomorrow shopping (I had seeded the convo earlier about some shoe shopping I ws going to be doing). This way it won't be a date, you'll just be my personal shopper.

End of story, got the number, but more importantly, got the plans.

I'll come back if I think of other stuff.


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Like the others said, getting her to give your number and getting her to want to pick up when you call next or stick to any plans take are separate things.

As for the actual line of things to say if you're going in-direct you need to have a reason to want to stay in contact. Asking for their number out of the blue implies you're trying to pick them up and cue ASD whereas finding a common interest and agreeing to do it together will be less likely to trigger it.

Also when asking for the number don't actually ask for her number once again for the same reason as girls tend to associate guys who ask their number as trying to pick them up. Instead say "We should so do <activity/plans>, whats the best way to stay in touch?" or "How can we stay in contact" or any such in-direct way.

This way it seems to her like it was her idea to give you her number and not your sneaky good self.

Credit to AFC Adam as these are his teachings (iirc).


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Just give a reasonable reason for wanting her number and she won't be able to say no or say something like "What kind of phone do you use" and then when you are looking at it you could casually say " so what is the ringtone like let's find out..." then ask for the number and phone it.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:11 pm 
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hmmm....

Well there's always a back story...

Basically this girl is the hostess - I'm having a hard time reading her. Until yesterday I beat my brother getting to the restaurant and start talking to her a little. She finds me a table and drops some silverware and I smiled real big and said "Uh-oh...." and she looked at me totally embarrassed and quickly ran off...

I took this as an IOI because of her embarrassment.... (most people don't care that much).

Later she came by and I smiled real big again and asked her if the "Silverware is still managing to get the best of [her]" She laughed and said something along the lines of being tired yadda yadda....

Well I told my brother I'm gonna get her number as we left... so I was walking up there to just directly ask her and right as i got up there a party came in and she had to seat them.... So I wasn't gonna wait up there until she got back... so I just kept walking....

Which is why I was wondering about directly asking for the number...

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Now my idea was to say something along the lines of:
What will your boyfriend think about you giving me your number?

And I can play the rest by ear depending on what she says. That was just my idea. I'm going back today or tomorrow to get it....

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:17 pm 
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Or,

"Wow you work in here almost every night don't ya?"

"You should give me your number so we can hang out on one of those nights you're not working..."

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I'd probably make a joke about helping her with her clumsiness or something, so I'm gonna be a nice person and help her so she doesn't drop anymore knives and put anyone else's lives at risk (smiling, of course).


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Haha that's pretty good.

Yeah I'm going back tonight to number close. I'll prob open by making a joke about her clumsiness and talk to her for a minute or two and say something along the lines of them having her work there a lot. She should give me her number so we can hang out sometime on a night she's not working...

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