So I'm usually very shy and have problems just going up to a set. I noticed this really cute girl in my theater class today (very small class, maybe a dozen people tops) and I was going to make it my business to try and go up to her at some point but really had nothing to talk about. She was on crutches, which seemed like a good starting point except somebody brought it up in class, which kinda took away that gambit.

In class, we watched some movie on Greek theater, where they showed how erotic they got. It was basically softcore, fully clothed dry humping w/ a phallus used in place of an actual penis. Anyway, after class, she walked out with her friend (who has to be with her to carry her stuff) and I went up to them and said something like, "So where does that rate on the worst pornos you've ever seen?" They both laughed. I almost never even get as far as the opener but to actually have an effective one in this situation actually felt pretty good. I then asked them a few questions like their names and where they're from. The target seemed very shy, until I mentioned I was a business major and she said she was too and was pissed about how we had to take a theater class. By this time, we were in the parking lot and I said goodbye, which they reciprocated.

Anyway, I have trouble working out the next move from here, starting with the next class. Do I just keep trying to find out more about her (how do I find out about if she has a boyfriend)? What are some things I should and shouldnt be saying? At what point can I begin to consider asking her out?

Another big issue is that due to her injury, she's always with her friend who is carrying her stuff, so isolating her is going to prove to be a near impossible task, which means every move I make will have to be with her friend around, incl inevitably asking her out. If I do get to the point where I want to ask her out, how do I do it w/ the friend around?

Thanks.

college class game is just like bar game but sllloooooowwwwwwwed down. use the same fundamentals but stretch them out. i suggest you do some searches on day game because it kinda relates. you have already opened and introduced, so the hard parts over. now throughout the next couple weeks befriend her. i would talk to her during break or after class and DHV through what you wanna do with your degree, some cool shit you did over the weekend etc... then qualify her. basically give her a reason you are interested in her other than her being hot. find some things in common. (make some up if there arent any) then once you find something in common ask her out. for example "oh ya, you like to ( whatever ).....i am going to do that this weekend, give me your # and ill hit you up. another good one is some classes i have taken have extra credit things you could do ie: go to a museum or play or something. tell her you need some extra points so your gonna go do one of these and tell her it would be fun to go together. good ways to start dialog with chicks in your classes are: did you do the homework? How do you think you did on that test? i wasnt here on monday, did i miss anything? once you got her talking just bust out some various routines/DHV's. btw dont ignore the friend. spread the attention and have them competing for you. oh and NEVER bring up the boyfriend subject. it doesnt matter if she has one, just do your thing. even if she does say she has one flirt with her anyways. remember your the alpha male.

2 more questions to add:

1. If I get to the point where I wanna ask her out, due to her injury, it will be improbable that I can isolate her from her friend. In this case, do I still ask her out in front of the friend? Do I have to include the friend in making a date?

2. Lets say I run into her in the parking lot before class (I saw her in the PL before class the other day but didnt open with her til after the class), does coming over and walking with her to class DLV (like say I'm a few paces ahead but then see her coming out of her car)? What about if I offered to help her carry her books (because of her injury)?

1. No I don't think you would. I'm sure the friend will understand and won't mind being left out of the date, but you will have to make your intentions clear when the time comes. Both of them will have to eventually understand that you are not just joining their social circle, but are interested in the crutch girl. Otherwise you may seem like a jerk for not inviting the friend. There are other ways to isolate without actually taking her anywhere. When the time comes: step in close to her, look her in the eye, kinda whisper so she knows this conversation is meant for just the two of you, and ask her out. A whisper can be very powerful if down right.

2. Assume friendship. Act like you've known each other for a while. It would be natural to say hello to a friend and it would be down right rude to ignore them. As for the books, it depends. If she needs your help to carry her books then do it. But if it seems like she's got it handled and the only reason you want to carry her books is to impress her, she will see right through that.

So I'm supposed to whisper to her even though the friend is right there and can probably hear us? Wouldn't that just make it more awkward?

i somewhat agree with kalel. i think acting as if you've known her is a good attitude to have, but make your intentions are known. make sure you dont fall into the LJBF category. ask her out sooner than later, and it is important that when you do go out on that first date you have to be flirty and fun. i fucked up before in your exact situation. i had a cute girl (HB8) in my class and i waited way too long to ask her out, but she still said ok. i went on the date with her and didnt get any kino going, wasnt flirty, and didnt try to kiss her. she was still polite to me in class, but she never answered my calls again. dont make that same mistake. make it apparent that your not just some AFC nice guy. you HAVE TO FLIRT with her.

How should I be flirting with her? What types of techniques do you recommend? And again I wonder how/if I should be flirting since I likely won't be able to get rid of the friend who has to help the target?

Also does sitting next to her in class indicate too much interest (esp when I sat across the room in the last class)?

It's only awkward if you make it awkward. The whisper is not to provide any real privacy, it's only job is to create an intimate moment. If the girl is focused on you enough, the friend will not be a distraction. You never really specified the gender of the friend, but I'm assuming she's female. Unless her friend is a total cock block (which I doubt since you said you were friendly with her), then she will just think it is cute that you are flirting/asking out the crutch girl. The only reason the friend is an obstacle is that you are extremely self-conscious about asking out women, and you assume everyone else is watching and judging you. Nobody really cares what you are doing, and if they do they can't hurt or shame you anyway. So strike while the iron is hot.

Yea it's a girl and yea you're dead on about me. I guess my fear is having to show up in this class the rest of the semester if I fail and wondering if she's gunna laugh at me or tell anyone else, which is why I usually wait until the end of the semester tho I'm starting to realize how stupid that is.

So what are some good techniques to flirt w/ the target w/ the other girl around? Like if I ask her some questions about herself, do I have to ask both of them to not leave out the friend?

And should I be sitting next to them in class or should I stay distant and try to talk after class?

So I went into class today. I chose not to sit next to them, since I wasnt sure how much of an interest that would show. Probably a mistake in hindsight. Anyway, I caught up to them after class. Much like last time, I was joking around with them and they seemed receptive. I told them I had to leave to go do a project in another class as sort of a FTC (which was true, although I had 2 hours) and that my partner had bailed on me so I was on my own (also true). They told me I didn't have to leave. I asked them at this point if they wanted to go to lunch nearby campus and they said yes. We went to lunch at a pizza place and then came back (we went in 1 car, targets friend drove). The friend had to leave for another class, which left me alone w/ the target. At this point, I really did have to leave but asked for her number, which she gave to me and said to call/text her sometime.

It wasn't the smoothest process ever (it was very sloppy and often had me rambling at times), but it wasn't the worst ever and I did get the number. However, I do fear she may have me in the friend zone, even if it was just a (instant) day 2. I never found out for sure if she had a bf. I told them a story of a horrible 1st date I once had and she reciprocated a bad date story. She ended it by saying she often tells guys she didn't like that she had a boyfriend as a lie, as a way to let them down easy, however it was never made clear what her situation is right now. She also made a joke about how the kid I was doing the group project with in the other class (the one who bailed on me) was my boyfriend and that I should call him (I was confused at the joke but she insisted she was joking). This is why I fear I may be in the friend zone.

Any reactions? What should I do with the number? What are some suggestions for a potential day 3, keeping in mind we're unsure of her status?