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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:00 pm 
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Hi guys, over the course of few weeks, I will either be copying and pasting my threads from other forums or I will edit them and put them up onto this forum. Please do leave some feedback!
PUAs just talk too much.

I cant stand it. It just goes on and on and on. Im glad I can substitute a lot of my verbal game with dancefloor or facial+kino game (if not at club).

It never ceases to amaze me how some guys can post LRs and FRs about how they used 35 DHV stories to get the girl. Damn, how the hell do you memorize all that? No wonder why guys can sometimes run out of material to say!!!

Now I've finally figured out why guys like me had such a hard time starting off and remained a KJ for the longest time! It's because we were busy trying to memorize DHV stories and stupid routines! I could never get the cube nailed down, couldnt help but cringe at how cheesy that was. Of course, now I can do similar routines effortlessly but at the time it was just so hard.

Sometimes we're busy trying to impress her that we forget it's a 2 way conversation.

So the tip here is to shut the hell up and let her talk!

Now guys are thinking, but wait, arent we supposed to be controlling the conversation? Well, since the last time I checked the dictionary, a social conversation consists of more than one person!

Let her do the talking. Make her qualify herself to you.

It should be 80% her, 20% you. The only 20% that comes from you is your little teasing lines, a few statements to show that you're paying attention and your statements/questions to get her talking more.

Of course, you should do this after the initial minute or two that you take to project value. I always believe in the beginning, it should be 90% you and 10% her, but slowly you should let her do more of the talking.

Be lazy and you can DHV yourself as well as build comfort.

DHV: She's investing in you by telling you her life stories
Comfort: She feels comfortable as time goes on through sharing her life with you, a guy that's such a great listener

So stop talking so much guys.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:22 pm 
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Agreed. The challenge is finding the right button to hit to get her talking. They all have that topic that will get her going but you have to find it. Last night this girl was extra quite and I was 90% for a while until I hit the topic of action movies. After that, she took it and ran! It seemed so random. Any thoughts on what you do to find that theme that will get her talking?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:18 pm 
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I'm glad you asked. Somehow I failed to mention this.

Girls LOVE talking about themselves.

Usually we give DHV stories right? That's always about ourselves. Let them talk about themselves.

So, what about themselves... well anything amusing! Childhood, future etc etc


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:07 pm 
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I definately agree. Women love talking about themselves. I have opened, established value, then talked to a girl for quite some time over the course of a night, hardly said a damn word, and by the end she tells you how connected she feels to me, etc.

Don't make all this harder than it has to be fellas, they will do most of the work for you!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:46 am 
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I know exactly what you mean with there is a certain topic that will get girls talking but seriously you have to come to the point at which you are no longer a stranger and she will let lose with her stories. Until then I take lead, because I think that I am worse off with awkward silences then she is! But boy when they get talk that puts a smile on my face, like 75% of the conversation, enters and exits my brain :D Listening is really difficult!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:46 am 
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can anyone provide some example of bringing up the "right" topic smoothly? that will allow her to run her mouth with comfort.

i think this could help alot of other fellow pua's who is having trouble of getting the girl to open up and talk.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:55 pm 
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So, I had an interview 3 days ago and they asked me a very interesting question. I used modified the question and asked a girl it later the night while I was at a party.

"I love judging personality through case questions. So let's pretend you are a firewoman, and the Lourve museum is burning down. You can only save one 'thing', either the $10mil Mona Lisa or an Old Lady who only has less than a week left to live. What do you pick and why?"

The girl started to b.s on how this was so difficult and made me put onto her spot, and she started to talk about how she really loves her granny blahblahblahblah which basically allowed me to get her talking.


Of course, before this. You can always ask her "Tell me some interesting things about yourself. It's a great way to get to know new people better"


All these things are designed to get her to TALK TALK and TALK.


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So, I had an interview 3 days ago and they asked me a very interesting question. I used modified the question and asked a girl it later the night while I was at a party.

"I love judging personality through case questions. So let's pretend you are a firewoman, and the Lourve museum is burning down. You can only save one 'thing', either the $10mil Mona Lisa or an Old Lady who only has less than a week left to live. What do you pick and why?"

The girl started to b.s on how this was so difficult and made me put onto her spot, and she started to talk about how she really loves her granny blahblahblahblah which basically allowed me to get her talking.


Of course, before this. You can always ask her "Tell me some interesting things about yourself. It's a great way to get to know new people better"


All these things are designed to get her to TALK TALK and TALK.

the interview question seems kind of canned, i dont really like it.

the tell me something interesting about youself is not bad. but i can see alot of girls going "i dont know.....what do u find interesting?"...

anymore like the above?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:52 pm 
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Jacky Kermis, a lot of stuff in the world is prepared beforehand. A lot of my social interactions with people in my business network is canned.

I dont endorse completely canned, but thats another debate. Even the "canned" question of "tell me a few interesting things about yourself"

If you can make your own questions spontaneously, feel free to do so.


If a girl says "I dont know", that means she's still unwilling to comply to you. Then change the question (either making it easier or different topic).


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