how to use direct openers?



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flow331
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direct openers, which immediatly show your sexual interest, go against everything i've been taught...to make one work do you need to portray more confidence, joke more, or what?
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Alright, with direct openers you have to have one hell of a frame. Confidence is KEY. Even with that though, you might be rejected depending on if she is attracted to you or not. I suggest only using direct openers if you've gamed for awhile and aren't a complete AFC, otherwise you'll crash and burn.

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First off it has a lot to do with body language. You must have direct body language and make sure your arms are not blocking your chest at all...if need put them behind your back.

Second IMO it works just like an indirect opener except you have to neg a lot sooner if they are giving you bad behavior on the open. You still need to transition like an indirect.

What direct openers are you using? part of it matters too where you use it. Night game is a little harder to use them then day game.
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what is a frame?
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The frame is the basically the mindset in which the conversation is taking place. When you are in set women will test your frame to see if you truly are the confident and psychologically strong guy you are appearing to be.
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The frame is the basically the mindset in which the conversation is taking place. When you are in set women will test your frame to see if you truly are the confident and psychologically strong guy you are appearing to be.
That test is what we called 'The Shit Test' in the community. There are quite a few threads on the forums about how to deal with them, if you fail, you're out of the set. So it's worth taking the time to have a look at people's ideas and ways of handling them.
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