OK I met a girl at the club so this will be our second meeting. I did a decent job of DHV, being alpha, not needy, etc. but didnt really kino at all besides some light touching on the arm during teasing. HB7 btw.

I told her I was buying a going away gift for a friend and she agreed to come along and help. So what should be my goal or routine here? I have never done something like this with a girl I really know nothing about.

1. How should my opener go when I see her?

2. Where should we meet at in the mall? What are some possible ways to bounce from the mall to say like a nearby starbucks, etc.?

3. How should I go about escalating kino? Would a kiss close be possible?

4. What kind of routines can I run that will build rapport, DHV?

My friend who is kind of a "natural" says I should take her out on a date instead or she will put me in the friend zone. What do you guys think about this?

1. You don't really need an opener "Hi" will work just fine.

2. I'd meet in the mall. To bounce you can simply say, "I can really go for a xxxx late', you should come with."

3. Just keep touching her when you can naturally. If she says something funny touch her arm or shoulder. Also, you can put your hand on the small of her back to guide her around a place, hold hands etc.

You can always go in for a kiss if the moment feels good.

4. Don't worry about routines. Be you! Simply talk to her and get to know her while staying busy shopping and stuff. it'll go fine. Pepper in the DHV spikes where you can. You already know what they are. If she says something, try to spin off and do a short DHV story.

As a smart general once said, "No plan survives first contact with the enemy." Try not to plan too much because it's all going to hell anyways when you guys get together.

Hope it helps!

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

Haha that would have helped alot but.............

I got a flat tire like an hour before we met so we didnt meet up. I never had a flat tire ever and its ironic I got one right before meeting up with a girl for the first time.

Anyways I called her an hour before and got her voicemail and told her the situation. An hour past our meeting time I texted her and asked if she got my vmail. She texted me back "yea are you alright and oh I decided to met up with a friend."

I texted her back "yea i guess no shopping today haha" and never got a reply back. I dunno but I get the feeling she was gonna flake on me or maybe when I called her she thought I was flaking on her?

So whats my next course of action? I will be out of the area for a month on the 14th so I am thinking if we dont meet up by then she will prob forget about me after a month.

Man that blows! I know how you feel, you did all that hard work to just let it go. That meet just wasnt meant to be. I really feel for you on that situation.

So you are going out of town for a while so about all you can do is shoot some phone game, texting, calling, or whatever while your gone. And your right she prob forget about you if you take off and dont keep in contact man.

Here is a good text I use every once in a while. " hey you I was nice enough to message you first so you should be cool enough to call me and say thanks"

You will either get a call back, a text back or nothing.

I did this sitting here bored the other day. mistake was I sent it to four woman at the same time, then I was talking to one while another one was beeping in, so it worked for me.

John C

Update:

I texted her on Friday "hey I hope you didnt think I flaked on you the other day." No reply. I think I came off as maybe too needy after I got the number close. I called twice and got her vmail after the number close and we actually made our plans via text message. Oh well lesson learned the game goes on!