so im testing out some new myspace game, the message i sent out was

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SUBJECT:
QUESTION?

BODY:
Are you wearing a wig...........or is that your real hair?

-mikey

now her response was

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weird question. thats for sure my hair

ME<

I was just curious. Don't worry it looks nice. While I have your attention, I need a female's perspective on something......Say, this guy is dating this girl, and she goes out with her friends, has a few drinks and ends of making out with a random guy at the bar.....Would you consider this cheating?

now this is her response to the last message i sent to her...

HER<

this sounds like The Game


haha i was so caught off guard i was like oh shiet, well that answers my question as to "i wonder if women have ever read this!?"

lol, i didnt really know what to respond back to so i just ended up writing this

ME<



the rapper?
hmm kinda lost me on that last comment. Lets try not to loose focus, and come back to the topic at hand



what do u think of my reply? was it ok? or should i just cut it and left

Why the hell were you using an opinion opener on a girl on myspace? Time for some shock therapy! That was lame.

There is a time for getting a girls opinion on something, and I feel this is later in the conversation as a way of keeping things going. Opening with it just doesn't feel right, although that's just me. The main thing is, why on earth are you asking a random girl on myspace something like this when you could more easily ask a girl you already know? That's the kinda thing she's asking herself. It's just not normal, put yourself in this girls shoes for a second. Even if she hadn't read the game that she wouldn't be wondering why the hell some random dude is asking her this stuff instead of his friends.

Don't ignore what she said because it is obvious you've read the book. You negged her and used an opinion opener, and both those examples are actually in there as far as I remember. Instead, tell her she's absolutely right and she wins a cookie. Ask what she thought of the book, and how she feels about guys learning this stuff. It'll make for a far more interesting conversation than getting her opinion on something you don't give a shit about.

heres the deal... this opener has been around forever!! not only is it in the game but its in dozens of threads on this forum alone. this opener has been used thousands of times over myspace so chances are pretty good that the hb has heard it.

so what you do is create your own awesome opener.. one that ladies havent heard.. if u cant think of one now thats what so great about the internet you can practice a lot. i would say practice on lower hb's like 6's or 7's to practice so when u have a flawless one you can step it up

and even if you do choose to continue with the opinion follow-up. dont use the exact same one everyone else uses.. there are millions of situations in this world, choose one and ask a girls opinion.. this doesnt even really matter its just talk

Yep, the 'need a female opinion opener' is the most used of all.
Whenever you drop that one there's a good chance they've heard it before or can relate it back to the game. Plus you come from L.A with more PUAs than any other city in the world.
Try to use words others than 'female' 'opinion' 'persective' to reduce the chances of this happening.

(P.S online PU is one huge time consuming mission, try something easier like sitting on your doorstep and wolf-whisling )

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To effectively communicate, we must realise that we are all different in the way we percieve the world and use this understanding as a guide to our communication with others.

mikeymikeyo the only way your going to get girls both online and off is by coming up with your own lines and not using canned ones.

It could be a pervert man with a picture of a hot girl, who has read the game, you never know when your on the net. quite a few crazy people

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Why So Serious?

If you follow the steps and stop using canned material the girls wont really recognize themselves being gamed. Like everyone else said your using material that's been juiced to its last drop and doing it online is probably the worst place to do it.

The part where you screwed up is using a second opener to prolong a conversation you already opened.

You opened her with her hair and you got a response end it and move on to something else there's no need to ask her opinion on something start teasing her about her profile information. Tease and play mind games until you notice her trying to talk to you more. Since you haven't gotten past that, that's all I have to say.

HAHAH Were you expecting a kiss close??? lol

people need to understand what made this guys come up with this things and become it... your game were really poor man, but keep reading and seek understanding instead of looking for material

Personally, I think a lot of specific examples from the Game and other PUA sources are pretty lame and over-used. Think of something unique...and I'm not crazy about opinion openers. Seriously, you sound like one of those annoying booth salespeople in the mall who hound every other person.

And doing it on the web is that much more awkward.

Trust me boys, girls read The Game too. ^__~

I just got a copy from my coach after making my first approach and I quite like reading it.

Don't run canned openers one after the other, especially not on the internet. In fact, running game on the internet alone is pretty bad. Having had game run on me via Facebook, lemme tell you, it's a big DLV. I would never consider anyone who tried to pick me up online.

So try to make the approach your own unique approach, don't rely purely on canned material from The Game, you come off as incompetent.

Better luck next time.

Cinnamon

ya thank you everyone...honestly this was the first time i tried to "game" on myspace...i just wanted to try something new on the space, that i normally wouldn't say
(ex.the opinion opener)
i do realize what you guys mean now though, how to "improve"
i messed up my foot this week so walking is out of the question for a week or so, so i said why not just try the friendly ol myspace
lol
im really not using these to PICK UP on myspace persay, i marketing and do advertising for clubs, its more so i want to be the "nice sweet, funny random guy" then invite them to my "home field advantage" and have them there...not so much lets go out on a dinner date...

i got 2 more i thought of today while i was in a meeting...

Now are you a fun cute girl, or a boring little shy girl?

-mikey

and i know KNOW this one is more used for the "field" but...i'd thought i'd give it a try on myspace...

We both know you are attractive, and now thats just obvious but im curious,What is something I would never guess about you, just by looking at you?

-mikey

Thing to remember is that things like Keys to the VIP is on TV, Stlye did a massive amount of TV interviews and demos a few years back. Theres people advertising it on Youtube, theres groups on FB and MS... Pick-up is not a hidden art form its become readily advertised - I know when I was a lad of about 14 I used to read female magazines where women were talking about sexual experiences and I put some of that material into practice and guess what? I got the response of "that was the best sex I've ever had"...

Curiousity killed that cat, and curiousity could kill a PUA, when girls evaluate they are going to get curious and more than likely discover things like 'The Game'. Especially when theres guys telling girls "oh yeh well when we met I picked her up using canned material" then the explanation of PUAism is revealed, what does he care hes got a long term GF, wife or whatever he wont need to do it again - or so he thinks.

Of course I refer to HE - as we have seen on this post theres at least one female PUA amoungst us, whats that tell you about this "secret" artform alot of people delude themselves PUA is?

Myspace and FB in my opinion is a waste of time unless your too young to go out or dont have the balls (isnt a bad thing we've all been there)... Anyone can bash keys on a computer or mobile phone.

Leave online things for timebriding or arranging day 2's and even then thats as an absolute last resort. Just get out there die on your arse a few times and then you'll start to shine through. I'm really enjoying Day game at the moment, I've met some really cool girls out doing xmas shopping and theres always a coffee shop round the corner to bounce to when you've run your A phases if you run Mystery method... try this...

XMAS Shopping opener...

(find a fat santa suit you can try on)
- come out approach and use "Hi, sorry can I get a womans opinion, does my bum look big in this?" then introduce yourself and run with it...

I think the worst response was "LOL do you work here, I cant believe they made you dress up in that, you must get paid lots"

Thats when you neg with something like, "money money money, women are all the same" (brush off and turn) then they think they've offended you

Anyways, good luck with your adventures, but please just go out and try some day/night game in person.