#closing,Kclosing,SNLs,LTRs,Lifestyle



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:55 pm 
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For those of you whom have been in the community for some time this is going to be review, for newer guys this could possibly be invaluable. In pick up there are different things you can achieve in each set; #-Close, K-Close, SNL, LTR, and lifestyle. Each of these have different aspects of the M3 model that you need to concentrate on when gaming a girl.

#-Close

The number close is the first tangible achievement a new guy is looking to get. For those guys who are new, they tend to have a certain reluctance and apprehension even when it comes to #-closing. The fact of the matter is those who possess that negative thought process are thinking to hard. #-closing is far easier than its made out to be. The main ideas to concentrate on when going for a number are; not being overly needy, not being creepy, and having something interesting to say. With that being said, you can get a number close in under a minute. You just have to abide by the above rules and then ask for the number. Thats it, there's nothing "hard" about asking for that #.

K-Close

The kiss close is the second tangible achievement that any new guy is looking for. This next step takes a little bit more work, but when done correctly is flawless. To get a kiss; attraction, minor kino, and minor comfort are needed. In this case, you really have to picky the girls interest. You must be continually interesting and keep her on her toes. "Dazzle her with your wit". Towards the end of attraction, start SOIing with kino. Touch her arm, rap your arm around her waist, and play with her hair. While doing this isolate her. Start to build some comfort, create a connection. After a few minutes of this, stop talking. Watch her eyes and her lips. If she purses them, or triangle gazes you; either A: ask for the kiss, or B: kiss her. In the case of being new to the game I don't suggest just kissing her outright. You must have the frame and lead the interaction perfectly, to "steal" the kiss. I highly recommend to you knew guys to just ask her, "Do you want to kiss me?". Simple and for the most part effective.

SNL

Single night lay, can be some what elusive for guys in PUA. For the matter that, there hasn't been many PUGs to concentrate on it or even write about it. For those of you familiar with Captain Jack though that doesn't apply. To get a SNL you have to concentrate mainly on attraction and sexual escalation. You need just enough comfort to have her desire your company. You can not at any point not being interesting to her. You have to constantly increase her buying tempature. The crux though of SNL however, is sexual escalation. You must constantly push her boundries. "A true alpha doesn't apologize for his actions or desires". When I say push her boundries, I mean from the moment you kiss her you are constantly always pushing for more. As soon as you kiss her, start making out with her. Get some heavy petting going on. Toy with her. Every time you make it seem like your about to take it all the way, stop and repeat. If you have done this the whole night, by the time the club closes you shouldn't even have to ask her to come home with you. Just lead her to your car.

LTR

Long-term relationship, when you find the perfect girl who you could possibly marry. For those of you guys who've studied MM and the M3 model there is really no provisions in them on how to get an LTR. First of all, I'm going to dispell some idiology that Mystery has previously stated. You don't need to sleep with a woman prior to being in a relationship. Sex has never been the staple of a relationship and never will be. If you base a relationship on sex, it will never be a full relationship. To get a real LTR though you don't have to lay on attraction so hard. In fact its better to continue to be a mystery, so in her mind you will never be boring. The staple to creating a LTR lies in comfort. You must create a shared world/experience. To do that you need to develop a strong emotional connection. You need to find common interests and hobbies, be able to enjoy the same things, and most importantly make it seem as though she's known you forever. Now, I'm defintely not saying lay on high comfort when you first meet. Just run solid game, and set up the day 2. During the day 2 you continue to be interesting, but create/solidify a connection with her. The connection needs to be so strong that she will always think about you no matter what.

Lifestyle

Lifestyle is the ultimate goal to achieve. When everday you wake up and have a plethora of things to choose from. Girls, activities, hobbies, what ever. You have achieved lifestyle when you are completely happy with your station in the world. That could be having a harem of girls, that one perfect girl, or the career you always wanted. To gain a lifestyle, you have to be pro-active. Go out there and get what you want. If you tired of a shitty job, go out and find that career you always wanted. If you want a harem go out there and make some MLTRs. If you just looking for that perfect girl, use the skills you learn to search until you find her. The definition of lifestyle is specific to each of you. Its your world, so create your own lifestyle.


I hope guys can take from this valuable information. I've had to many constant questions on the process to get #s, kiss, and lays; so I finally caved and wrote this. Have fun!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:12 pm 
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JJ i think this is a retty good overview for the newbies. However I don't think it is right to paint the picture in their head that they will constantly get a girls number in under a minute very often. Good stuff about the SNL though, there isnt as much focus on this forum so it helps those guys that are looking for it. I definitely agree that if SNL is your ultimate objective, you have to constantly be pushing for more. If you meet a girl at night in a club (presumabley not at the beginning of the night), you have a limited amount to build enough comfort and sexual attraction so you must push the limits.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:22 pm 
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Excellent post dude! This is especially helpful to me being as though I'm still fairly new. This is almost like the mental checklist I have in my head of things to achieve whilst learning these new skills, so good to have it written down and I really like the little tips in particular the tips on K-closes as this has been quite a sticking point for me (came so close a couple of times but blew it at the last second).

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:11 am 
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Appreciate the kudos. I had been dwelling on these concepts for awhile, because they are reaccuring themes for questions from new guys.

B I wasn't referring to every #close being under a minute, but that it is a possiblity. As to the SNLs Captain Jack is the only PUG who has done any concentrated work towards SNLs. In fact if I remember correctly Sinn went and stayed with him for a time in order to learn the process to SNLs. If I missed anything on SNLs Sinn would be the guy here to ask.


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Great reference post here bro. I will be bookmarking it to give to new guys as they ask.


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