Hey guys, i'm not sure what to do about this sticking point. Recently i talked to someone who helped me see what was happening.

When i walk up to women, i can open her easily. I can run routines with no problem; body language is not an issue. But my problem is i don't FEEL like saying anything. I just dont feel like i have anything to say to her or have anything to talk to her about even though i want to talk to her.

When i open i can say hi, be relaxed and not think a thing. It goes NOWHERE unless she is social and into me. I can use routines but i dont like to. I want to talk to her about something but i dont feel there is anything i should talk about. Its like, a whatever (i dont care) or a blank in my mind. How do i get myself to feel like talk to her about something?

I can easily keep up conversations, put a new twist, change the frame, etc. But, for the life of me i cant start a conversation unless its a routine. And i am not interesting in saying a routine (including my own, i rarely use another person routine). I either think the routine is stupid or i just dont care about whatever i am talking about. I was recommended to talk to them as a friend but the problem is they cant relate to me if i do that. Its to specific or to much for a person you just met.

What can i do to make myself feel like talking about something, what exercise should i try? (for an example, pretending to have ADD and talk about w/e helped me be more social) and has anyone gone through this specific sticking point before and do you know what changed or what you do different to solve that sticking point?

dude i feel you on this. it's like you dont really give a shit about the conversation and you dont feel like faking high energy. right? and your brain tells you that you dig her but theres no chemistry on your part. i know.

its all about being in state of mind. do whatever it takes, listen to your favorite song, smoke a cigarette, take a shower, and do some pushups. you gotta get in a state of mind where you aren't lazy and are ready to seduce HBs. shit, get tipsy if you have too. if you ask me, being quiet isn't always necessarily a bad thing. just have strong body language. if she asks why you're quiet, you can say a multitude of responses. I.E. i dunno, im not feeling this convo or say something like "i'm in deep thought"

or make some c&f shit up and say "when i talk the sores in my mouth hurt."

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i think this is a good question..........
if you say an opener a bunch of times after a while you start to feel like a dickhead.... and the passion is gone.....

i had the same problem......

until i made some routines up on my own, stuff i was interested in............

the problems with routines is that they are someone else's routines..... and you are virtually using their framework........

if you make up your own stories/routines and relevant openers you should find it easier to transition between threads and you will be more enthusiastic about shit you actually know about..........

i am having trouble making my own routines.
Really, i dont care about anything except for my hobby which is specific. Right now its all about developing a video game and doing programming. Even if the person i am talking to can relate, understanding what i am talking about would be incredibly hard or boring unless she (or the person) has knowledge in this field.

Another problem is when i talk to my friends i talk about specific stuff that they know a lot about or have interested in. I am always talking about specifics that average people cant relate to. Always, so, i am stuck on that and have difficulty talking about things people can relate to. Even tho i can use a routine i wouldn't care about what i am saying which leads to my problem. I dont feel like i have anything i want to talk to the girl about

This fucking sucks.

if you guys are talking about club game: dont worry, just remember this >>> you cant have a normal conversation in a club anyway.. and nobody is doing a real rational conversation with a new girl (unless they want to fuck up). all you can do is talk about playful superfiscial bullshit stuff.
and you should be interested enough to learn that playful stuff >> this will get you girls... so use this interest and apply it to your energy level when you talk to her.
drinking coffee before sarging helps me a lot btw. i never drink coffee, only before workouts or before sarging when i feel low energy i drink it.

if you say anything that makes sense or is smart you are actually boring the hell out of her...
just learn these proven routines as a start: the cube, strawberry fields, the 5-question-lying game, trust test. just practice them one by one. do 1 week for routine 1, one week for routine 2, etc. until you know 10 routines, then just use them when they come to mind.
that will give you start... to talk about something
once you get into talking using these routines, you should practice cocky&funny responses to girls (check david d'angelo's stuff for that), so thats naturally trying to be playful. which is a nice skill to learn.
doing games like kill-marry-shag or adopting them as sisters or fantasy-marrying and breaking up are also all good games to experience playfulness

good luck