I just came back from a night club here in toronto. It was a nice place with lots of attractive people. However, the music was too loud and there were very few places where it was possible to have ANY sort of conversation. I opened 2-3 sets but it was too difficult to ask them questions without leaning waaaay in and looking needy. I managed to work one set but it was like 6s and one 7 and one of the 6s gave me her number without me asking which i really had no intention of calling. Anyways is it possible to run game in loud clubs or should i just not bother???

It's never too loud and it's always possible. That's what my partner The Saint always says when someone tells him it's too loud and I've seen him prove it again and again.

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can u give me some pointers?

I was going to ask this same question myself. I'm like 6'3" and I find it difficult to hear people without leaning into them, which is obviously bad body language. I have started leaning halfway and making them lean in to me, but is there anything else I can do?

and another thing, is it a bad idea to approach dancing sets? I know that you gotta be at a higher energy level but its gonna be kinda hard. What do you guys think?

I highly recommend you ask The Saint, because he is much better at loud club game than me at this point. Here's a link to his thread.

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thanks man

Non verbal communication, eye contact, smiles, DANCING, that is what the club if for.

Fuck that bullshit about not leaning in. If they cant hear you, you lose. End of story. Dont be so afraid to break a "rule". Whether or not you close a chick isnt going to be based on the fact that you are leaning towards their ear so they can hear you.

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thanks guys that helps!

Love the posts guys but yall have failed to mentioned a change of venue or to initiate a move to a section of the club which's more quiet.

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whats rule one of seduction then?

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hey i have the same problem when i go to clubs. Since the music is so loud its hard to have a conversation. But there is one benefit of this. It gives you a chance to get closer with a girl, you can whisper in her ear and get her leaning in. Its easier to kino escalate this way too.

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There you go, that's the answer. That and practicing speaking from your diaphram. Keeps you from getting a raspy voice as well as making you a lot easier to hear.

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