How successful is this technique? I'm newish to "game" and I was wondering how effective this was in comparison to just ignoring it and escalating after further on, as though it was like a rejected kiss.

It seems brazen and will polarise, but I was thinking it could lead too many girls on the fence the wrong way. What are your experiences with the other way I mentioned in the first paragraph?

I'd also ask...is this something that is normal for a first date? If I tell a girl that I'm going to leave because I have a project after she says "no" to coming over then she'd know the whole project thing was BS because you just asked her to come over and now that she rejected that idea all of a sudden you're busy and have to leave. If you're purposely and obviously misleading on a first date it is not normal for a girl to want to come over after the two of you parted. Even if she were gullible enough and believed you about the project, she would wait until another day to ask if she could come over because you were busy. If the girl and you have history, then it is plausible that she may text and ask if she can come over.

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When you combine this with a great gym/diet routine, it's very successful.

That's another way to play it, but a much weaker frame. I just go for what i want (how I'm feeling). And if a woman doesn't go for it, that's cool. I'll go do something else, but not in a butt-hurt way. I don't need to spend my time to "convince" women to come home with me. either we're having a good time, and that organically conveys to her coming over, or I go home and focus on my career or reading.

Either way I'm good. and it's that indifference that 's so rare in men, and so common in 9/10 women. They lose their shit over it.


I have no problem with brazen. There are always more women. I'm a fun guy, and if they want to have fun, cool. If not, no big deal. There are many more opportunities.

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I was thinking that if your were going with a similar approach post-rejection, perhaps ending the date more organically a little while later and texting them that night would yield better dividends.

I’m surprised it’s very effective for you. Generally that kind of directness is mainly for filtering out specifically for the DTF girls but you’d expect to get a lot of rejection. It’s something I’ll try though, I won’t knock it until I’ve tested it.

What kind of fitness and diet do you have? The only reason this works is because of your physical appearance.

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Not the most practical technique and I wouldn't recommend it to new guys.


Lol, I suppose it works better if your physical appearance is on point.

Still wouldn't recommend.

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That's 100% spot on. I only date sex-positive, bi-sexual women, so it's a great filter. I don't have time to waste with conservative women. They may be just conservative on the outside, but usually it's an indicator they aren't open minded enough for me in the bedroom, and in life.

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Fair enough, it seems like it could be an effective strategy. What do you mean by bisexual? I’d say to some degree a lot of women are loosely bisexual in that they’d generally be considered straight but they’re open to experiences.

Yeah, most sex-positive women are bisexual. I just require an open-minded woman. I like threesomes, so that's why it's important to me. I don't need them all them time, but one every few months hits the spot. I like being in a fun, exciting relationship, and going out with my gf and having both of us look for other women. I like risque things that push my boundaries (watching my gf dirty dance with strangers, etc).

I'm pretty open minded, so I like a woman to be, too.

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Damn Arch...I owe you an apology. To get the results that you get you need to do the following:

1. Be in top physical condition
2. Target sex-positive women.
3. Target bi-sexual women.
4. Target 9s and 10s only.
5. Only ages 20-27.
6. Say as little as possible.

If a woman doesn't react to you positively that means she is not bisexual, sex positive, an 8 or below, and older than 28. It's a filter of genius. Again, huge apology for doubting you. I wish I understood what sex-positive meant because I haven't met a woman that's sex negative...but that's beside the point. Pure genius.

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Jack, this is what happens when you reach "abundance". YOU do the filtering, and the picking, and you are no longer at the whims of women you are attracted to. YOU have a list of requirements that women have to meet, whether it's age, demeanor, physicality, etc.

This is what the world looks like when you achieve these things. It is not ego. It is not bragging. THIS is abundance. *I* do the choosing, the way a 9/10 woman chooses the men who orbit her.

Sex-positive:

http://www.issm.info/sexual-health-qa/w ... itive-mean


This is also a very strong indicator that a woman is open minded about other issues too, well-read, and intelligent.


As Kendrick Lamar says in "Humble", "It's levels to it, you and I know."

You just aren't on that level yet, so it doesn't seem real to you. But you can be, if you apply yourself.

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You are 100% right. I am not on that level. I didn't realize that I'm not approaching the women that I like, choosing the women I like, but instead they are choosing me. I feel enlightened. You are the master.

Just to think, yesterday I would have thought your filter was something that was used to keep women from rejecting you, but instead it's you rejecting them without them even knowing it. Even better, they're calling you back later thinking that they are choosing you but little do they know. love it.

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At this point Jack, I think it's clear we don't agree on methods/lifestyle.

So let's spare the forum turning every thread into an emotional debate.

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I was just saying that you had a great system. I even went as far as saying it's genius. I was touched by your encouraging words by telling me that I can reach that level. I realized that I was looking at you the wrong way all this time because I didn't understand the genius to the method of your madness and I apologized. The only emotion in this thread is me regretting how I've ever doubted you and you have truly humbled me. Thank you, Arch. #TeamStanton

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lol

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