Im sorry i struck a nerve. I'll comment as long as you don't stop flaming others. If you just wanted to promote yours you would not have any need to bad mouth others.

I suppose the lesson here is that you don't mess around when not needed.

as for the guidlines those are the the old ones and no longer in use. they were the test pilot when we were new.

Have a nice day and lets keep the peace.

check your private messages.

It's funny that you dont want us to post here. Go back and read your first post you're the one that wrote about us in you first post.

Everything you said about us is totally false as you were not in our group so you dont know what you're talking about.

Firstly our group is a lair it's not just an internet forum.

If you contacted us and we got back to you only after a week it's because we do have a life as well - this is just a glorified hobby for us. It's no a religion nor a source for business. It's being a bratty pants to think that you send an email and expect a reply within minutes.

You keep using cheap nlp words: "judging", "not being enough" - but guess what you probably need to read more than nlp for dummies. It's not working.

Also I suggest you to show that you have a great lair going but getting other members to spread the word about how good it is instead of just claiming that is "bigger and better" and telling how bad the other ones are. How can you judge our group if you're not and you were never part of it? How do you know yours is bigger and better? Got an inferiority issue? Got a oneitits with us? If you want we can give you some tips on inner game to get over these issues and move on.

Again I think you're misleading saying you have a lair when in fact you just created a forum. There is a difference between a forum and a lair but you can still think what you like.

You asked those questions because back then there was a troubled guy that kept contact us under different names just to find out our meeting location and come to the Sunday meeting even though he was told not to come.

We had all sorts of weirdos coming to the group, we're not a charity organization nor a therapy group.

If you were asked what you can bring to the group I think it's a great question that everybody should ask themselves when joining a community. The group is like the table of a party: the host offer some food and drinks but if none of the guests bring something as well - drinks and food are quickly gone. The same is for the energy in a lair on any any other social group: if you go to the group and selfishly suck all the energy out the group will perish.

Anyone that brings PUAs in Ireland have a commercial agenda. Any PUA that comes here wants to have at least free flights and accommodation - someone's got to pay for it. I also call the free talks with a different name: sales pitch.

There is no such thing as free education as they say and there is nothing wrong with that. I spend 10% or more of my income on education and seminars. Although I've never got around to do any bootcamp or seminars related to the game but I'm sure I will in the future. I would appreciate the honesty of people who market these products to call themselves marketer not make it looks like it's a service that they offer at their own expenses.

Again I said to you in a personal email a little while ago (I've never saw your first post till the other day though) I congratulate with you for the forum that you created and I wish you lots of success in the field and in you personal development journey. I would appreciate you being honest and just talk about the advantages joining your forum rather than say that is bigger and better than our lair. When I hear someone or catch myself talking bad about someone else I always think: what a great opportunity missed to keep the mouth shut. It's a very bad habit.

I waste a few minutes of my time to write this post only because I got a lot from the guys in our group and I wanna contribute myself something back the community and I saw the transformations that happens in a balanced, drama-free environment like our group. I've seen people joing as totally AFCs, lack of confidence being able to approach numbers of set every night, closing and get day2 and getting laid.

I know out there there are some other great guys that are only missing a great peer group to hang out with. Practise Ireland is such a group.

Honestly, I can't be bothered to read that post above. Way too long.


So to summerise

- PM me to join the biggest Irish lair at the moment which is growing all the, has more members and is in contact with good PUAs to come over and give talks (which will be open to all).

- PM Mr. Spirit or Dancer to join their lair which you have to prove you can bring something to the table to join and get judged at a meeting by people to join.

/end thread

We don't ask you to bring anything to the table! Stop telling lies.
Don't write shit you can't back up. We can advertise our lair by ourselves thank you very much. I'm pretty confident we are more qualified to make statements about Practice than you are. Let us know when mystery or style brings their whole crew, paid for their tickkets and accomodations by themselves, to dublin just to give a free talk because your just such best buddies.

Fotnote. Practice doesn't mind anyone beiing part of more lairs than just practice. we have members who are part of both their lair and ours. we have nothing negative to say about their lair because we are not interested in shit stirring!
No matter what your skill you are welcome to practice.

All you smart guys out there wouldn't it be nice to make up your own opinion which you can trust yourselves.. think about it adn look before you leap

Peace broheims

Paddy1000 it seems to me your telling one thing here and another trhough pm's to me:

From: paddy1000
To: Dancer
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:05 am
Subject: Re: irish lair
Dancer wrote:
I can see why you would see it like that. We are sorry that feel that way. we wish you best of luck on your endeavour. if you do wish to meet us and find out what we are really all about your more than welcome to do so. Say hi to erik from me when he comes over for the bootcamp


hey mate

I think we got off on the wrong foot

I dont mean any disrespect to your group at all. I'm a nice guy and really have no bad feelings at all to you or the group as I don't know anyone.

And when I get good PUAs over to give talks I'll be posting it here so all are welcome to come! There is no competition. We are all on the same team!


paddy

lol dancer no offence but you really are taking this way too seriously. If you are the person in charge of organising who gets in to that group, i can see why the lair I set up has exploded with members.

As I said I have no problems with you or anyone else. I don't know how many times I have to say it. Now you are posting PMs that actually prove what I have said on the thread. My only problem with your group is I cant be bothered getting judged by you and others before I can join a lair. I'm not the only one.

Really it's that simple mate!

Now, lets leave it at that (although I do expect an irrational few posts now from you and Spirit but I will let you have the last word).

Finally, if anyone wants to join PM me for info!

there we go again with accusations. To me it looks like your not really congruent with what your saying. All we want is for you to be succesful without having to drag us into a fight with you so please stop slandering us and stop saying things that contradict each other. Guess your right. heres a few more lines for you

Oh and i will take it seriously when people lie to me. i think thats called a normal response.

Wow, I'm impressed by the ignorance here from some people.

I'm very pleased being part of PI, they are friendly open and helpful. Joining was extremely easy and pleasant. It's great to know the people in person. It makes that everybody acts normal in the forum.
I totally understand to keep things a little closed because not everybody likes PUA's and some of us don't want this to damage any personal life. I thrust the people in PI, because I know that I can.

Actually, I found this PM to join another lair annoying and rude. I didn't show any intention that I wanted to do this.

Just my 2 cents to this discussion.

Thread locked for flaming

Dancer and MrSpirit - learn how to calm down