So. A little over a week or so ago...I ran into this girl I used to see about a year and a half ago.

Things ended with us really HORRIBLY because I did the whole beg and plead...pathetic routine. Anyway. She was really into me at first because at first I was the opposite....I was confident and kinda sly in my seduction of her. Anyway.

My friends I are walking into the bar and I feel someone playfully grab the back of my hair. I turn around, and it's her. I hold eye contact, like you're supposed to, she looks away several times, returning back to my eyes each time....when she looked away it was to the side and down, then back to my eyes.

Then we exchanged small talk for a second. After this she tells me she's gonna walk around, but she'll probably see me around.

The rest of the night I ignore her, and don't acknowledge her when we leave the bar (I'm trying to gain a little value back from way back when things ended).

A week or so later I send her message (this was about 3 days ago) teasing her about sneaking up on me like that. Her response is "So sorry!". I respond with "You should be ashamed....grabbing people like that"...you know...sarcastically or whatever. Her response is "Well then next time I won't even bother saying hi to you then. So there!"

Now, obviously I'm extremely oblivious to most signs women give us. I'm pretty stupid when it comes to this.

1. What does the hair grabbing, and then ignorance the rest of the night mean? and

2. What should be my next response?

I'm not 100 percent sure I want to pursue her again, although part of me does want to. I want to learn from this, this time, though.

Any advice is welcome. Thanks!

usually any time a girl touches you she is into you, but im not sure that is the case here. To tell you the truth she seems over it and is just kind of being flirty/friendly. I would also avoid the myspace pimpin routine you are tying to pull. If anything just call her up and tell her whats up. Consider if you really want to go back out with her and then go from there. If anything, be over it and go get some new women.

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My advice;


Suggest a group hang... IF you were with this girl for any perod of time..u ran in the same crowd and now have mutual friends...

The group hang will give you time to assess how she feels about you...

is it like my fellow PUA sad,,, just flirty/friendly.. or does she want to rekindle something...


From the way the relationship ended last time.. I would not try a one on one hang... U still have feelings for this girl and that could lead you abck down the path of pathetic..if you do that you lose her forever...

try the group hang and again dont give her all the attention, but definitely give her more attention then u did at the club...

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I agree, but please dont be needy, she will be over that quick.

Our mutual friends have all moved away or whatever. We have totally different friends now, so that wouldn't really work.

I was thinking about sending her a neg, or well I guess it would be a neg...you guys would know better than I.

Something like "suit yourself..." and that's it...

I wanna dabble with this and see if I can spark it, but I refuse to lose value this time.

Define sending a neg, and don't say email, myspace...... If anything go to a bar that you know she is going to be and do some gaming in person

I don't know where she's gonna be, I meant responding to the message she sent me.

If you are going to go with a neg, choose something from your time together that will make her laugh...



Heres an example... i was on a date with a girl once and we meet up at the movies... well the poor girl spilled some gasoline on her while she was pumping gas... the smell was noticeable but not unbearable..

anyway...months later i sent her a card bc she was at college and in the card i incorporated a 5 dollar gas card to get go..and said in case you needed a new bottle of your favorite perfume, chanel no. 93(GAS)

she ate it up and we hooked up shortly there after...


so if you cant group hang... choose a past neg that will make her think of better times between the two of you.

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SHIT TEST!
It's direct but playfull. Off the top of my head I'd respond. "Oh Please, I'd totally have "Black Magic" on to avoid your Cooties." (This might be just be a Canadian thing), but if it worked it would add to the C&T from emotions of childhood feelings.

Are you saying she's testing me?

It is definitely a shit test, but don't respond with "suit yourself, cause that's gonna fail the test. You need to say something playful like Holden says, although I don't understand what he means by "a Canadian thing".... You're gonna give americans a reason to think we all know "Office Bob" if you start thinking that the country is so small that we have our own in jokes.

I'm drawin a blank on how to respond. Looking up shit tests, I don't see any that look similar to this one to compare it to.

You think that "black magic" line would work?

Sorry guys, I'm a total moron/noob at figurin this shit out. That's why I lost her in the first place.....

I personally wouldn't use the "black magic" line, because its just not in my style and wouldn't work for me, but for some people it would work like a charm, it all depends on your style of game. This is a shit test, because she's trying to see whether you care or not. If you say "suit yourself..." then you're gonna show NO interest. If you say "no no, come on, lets hang out" then you're gonna fail cause you showed too much interest and you caved. You need to give her something cocky and funny that shows you are interested in seeing her again, but its gonna be on your terms.

"Well then next time I won't even bother saying hi to you then. So there!"


Two variations;

1: Well then next time I won't even bother saying hi to you then.

= Go fuck yourself

2: ... So there!

She obviously doesn't mean what she says, but gives you PLENTY of leeway to go hang yourself in the AFC rope.

What if I said "Yes you will..."?

Is that right around the range of witty enough, but not ass holish?