The alpha woman? How does this affect others in the group?



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:34 pm 
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Ok, so I'm a real big newbie. I read the David DeAngelo stuff about 6 months ago, then the whole thing w/Mystery came out and Styles book. I read Styles book and decided to really begin trying to become a PUA. Since then I haven't done more than thirty approaches, mostly by myself, my friends are mostly married and I try to find every opportunity to sarge with other single men, but they usually build up a wall when I tell them about "The Game," and other things. Then they see me approach a lot of women but still can't get the confidence part down. That's when I realized that the biggest issue is the approach, and the best thing to do is just approach everyone, everywhere and ask them questions. Another book that I had used previously in life had lead me on this path "How to Win Friends and Influence People," but now I understand the difference between the sexes and my actual game has gotten better. So, Anyway, I'm a nice guy (negs were my sticking point), and from my asking other people have determined that I am about a 7.5 in just the basic looks department (including some of the peacocking I do). These two girls came into my friends house last night (I had been sarging all day at a downtown art show w/no luck), and I started talking them up. When they came into the room, There was a blonde girl that I rated about an 8 when walked in and a brunette friend that was about an 8.5. It was obvious that the alpha female was the blonde, even though her friend was much better looking. So I used the mystery method and started talking to the blonde. I think I asked the brunette about where she grew up. She said wyoming, so I was going to neg her about being a hillbilly. I said Oh, where at in wyoming? She said close to Jackson Hole. I said yeah, you can kinda see the yuppie in you. She said, but I'm not really. Yeah, I'm sure you're not. (Note, I can't explain it, but this was the most victorious thing I have ever said in my life. It was my first neg. I was beginning to think that I didn't have it in me.) Then, back to the blonde for more conversation. (Note, we were smoking weed during this convo, brunette kept passing.) During intermittant pause, Blonde to Brunette: blah blah blah something about UAs. So I asked the brunette what she needed UAs for. She said that she had been caught with an ounce of mushrooms and was, a convicted felon (she was 19!). I used something that I had read on a Tyler Durden post about calling her a Bad Girl. Two negs. More conversation with the blonde (I ended up getting the blondes # for business, she was a weed peddler). I couldn't tell if I was going too far w/ the negs. She was beta so probably saw herself as my equal (7.5) and my two negs and talking to her friends probably had her at a 5. But once I had released the fear of the negs, I landed another one. I broke off to establish some rapport w/ her, So I asked her a couple AFC questions. She IOIed me and asked me where I came from. I said CO. She said, Oh, I have a friend in Steamboat Springs (Steamboat Springs is a very, very yuppie town). I busted her on saying that she wasn't a yuppie but she had yuppie friends accross the country. I don't know if I overdid it, what do you guys think? Talked to her some more, but there was no effective wingman there to get the blonde out the action (so I could ask for brunnettes #). She took off, brunette in tow. So my question for you guys is what did I do wrong, what did I do right, and how can I improve and actually land the # next time? Should I have just went for it right in front of her friend as I was leaving? I got the feeling that the blonde liked me alot, though she had a boyfriend and wasn't the target. Does this happen to other people? When a girl is more attractive than the alpha female, does she think less of herself and automatically take a few points off of her own rating? Did I neg her too hard then? What's appropriate w/ the negging?

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