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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:19 pm 
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I Have no problem going up to any girl, get her interested in me and having a conversation for 5 10 minutes. After that 2 things usally happen.
1.I get her number which happens alot, and when i call she never picks up, or i speak to her once and thats it. I usally get the hint she is not into me for some reason anymore.
2. The girl loses interest after 5 10 min and i get the hint right there and then she is not interested anymore.

I am also wandering why i get numbers no problem but when i call its usally a lost cause, if they are not interested why did they give me their #'s in the first place???


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:05 pm 
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I Have no problem going up to any girl, get her interested in me and having a conversation for 5 10 minutes. After that 2 things usally happen.
1.I get her number which happens alot, and when i call she never picks up, or i speak to her once and thats it. I usally get the hint she is not into me for some reason anymore.
2. The girl loses interest after 5 10 min and i get the hint right there and then she is not interested anymore.

I am also wandering why i get numbers no problem but when i call its usally a lost cause, if they are not interested why did they give me their #'s in the first place???
Girls will give their number to anyone with a pulse. You have to actually make a mistake to NOT get a number (e.g., failure to get a # means you did something wrong, getting a # doesn't mean you did something right).

Another thing -- everyone gets a little flaking. Even the best PUAs in the world don't get a day 2 from every phone number they get. Let's say, the best PUAs in the world get 2 'day 2s' for every 3 phone numbers. The trick is to just get more and more numbers, so you have more and more chances to get that 2 out of 3 to work in your favor.

Finally, you can lower your flake rate (flaking = phone #'s that go nowhere) by using a timebridge instead of a standard phone number close. You basically set up your next meeting while their energy and buying temperature are high, instead of setting things up days later after all the work you have done attracting is in her not-nearly-as-vivid long term memory.

If women are losing interest after 5-10 minutes, you need to take a look at your material. If you're not using material, perhaps you should consider using some. 5-10 minutes is one medium-length story for me, what about you?

What are you spending that 5-10 minutes doing? What are you saying? Are you in a group or have you already isolated? When do you start kino escalation?

The more details about your 5-10 minutes after opening you can give us, the more specific and constructive our help will be.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:28 pm 
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Most of the time its a 2 set or a single. Usallly the convo is about general stuff, getting to know the person,i throw in a couple of negs. chit chat about this and that nothing specific


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