I don't really know how to give any examples of this right now but i'll try.

Say you meet a girl and hit it off with light flirts and start to get a little closer with chatting over a few weeks time.. A certain time comes around and you are both together in person, as regularly, and her mood is different.. She seems to be purposly acting in a bad mood as to get some sort of reaction out of you, maybe she wants you to ask whats wrong, maybe she wants you to get it out in some way..

Every time this has happend with a girl, more or less a situation like that, I keep my distance.. In my mind I feel like their having a bad day but they are using it as a tool to maybe, "Friend Zone"(I honestly don't know if that exists but..) me in some way.. Maybe exaggerating their feelings to test me in some way..

I always keep my distance.. And I don't really press the subject at all.. I do this because I feel they want me emotionally involved in a way I don't want to be before I sleep with them..

Yet even so, this usually has not helped me in the past.. I think a big negative to it is that it makes me look emotionally empty.. As I don't know what is going on socially and it turns them off.. Yet still, I always keep with my guns on this, why I don't know.. I just always get the feeling that if I did the whole, "What's wrong?.. Have a bad day?.. You can tell me.." Card before even getting closer to them sexually, i'll be perceived as weak..

It might not have anything to do with you at all!

People generally think that the world is centered on them... They are wrong. Her world has other elements then just you!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Women have attitude problems. They have off days. Off weeks even. Let them get over it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijCSu87 ... rn-1r-4-HM

Are you serious?

Come on, you cant just reduce a womans actions to some kind of ridiculus attitude problem or mood swings...

She has stuff going on in her life, just as you do. If your friends act strange you ask them whats up, and they have a great reason for it or they dont. In any case you accept it. Why would women be any different.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

You're overanalyzing my underanalyzation. Yes, women have problems like us, but do we allow ourselves to catch an attitude with people we normally hang around with? I know I don't. There's a difference between being melancholy and being stuck up. Women are more likely than us to become the latter.

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The best PUA advice is also the best fighting advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijCSu87 ... rn-1r-4-HM

Dude, no, just no...

I outta this discussion.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

my bf (who is in the forces) doesnt cope well if i am feeling a bit down or emotional either. it makes him 'nervous' like he is worried its about him or i am going to leave him or start a fight or something - he hates discussing this sort of thing totally. but...i hope this reassures you to know that if we are having a bad day, or we are in a mood, we arent 'purposely acting in a mood' its just that we are in one. When girls are in a mood its usually because we are unhappy about something but its difficult for us sometimes to express what we are unhappy about so we clam up and say stuff like 'i'm fine' when its apparent that we arent fine at all...you know what i mean.
Sometimes its PMT and we know we are being a bit irrational and emotional and in a day or two everything will feel sooo much better we will be fine, so its best not to say anything we might regret while we feel this way....
i dont think men do this so much, (usually i observe you just go down the pub for a pint if you are in a mood, or go down the shed and play with your motorbike or something and are probably best left alone at that point) so maybe it is confusing to you all - but its not a tool, its not a test, we aren't exaggerating our feelings, and yes avoiding it can make you look emotionally clueless, or perhaps just not very good at empathizing- its just what we do when we are having a bad day generally or there is something wrong that we arent sure how to broach, or even if we want to.
What i really want to emphasize tho is that asking 'how are you today you seem a bit not your usual cheery self' (you dont need to go all fluffy bunny on us btw) will not make you appear weak!! Sometimes girls want to talk about it, in which case let them, dont try to solve their problems, just listen...and other times they dont want to talk, but its still nice you noticed and took the time to ask. If they dont want to talk, sometimes a hug and a cup of tea is good instead

Nah you're right, men and women have the same bad days. Its so obvious.

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The best PUA advice is also the best fighting advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijCSu87 ... rn-1r-4-HM

The individual variation is bigger than the difference between genders...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Like any other human being, women have their good and bad days. You won't find a single woman on this planet that's always gonna be happy around you and fight for your attention (or whatever you were getting at).

I usually act normal when this happens. Don't pay too much attention to her "reduced happiness". Don't be that guy that wants to solve all her problems and make her happy at his presence at all times for his own sake and ego.

You're taking this way too personally. Let it be.

I think THIS is the root of the problem.. it takes you a few weeks before you go to sleep with them

THATS why you end up in the friend zone, because your not sexual
you wait for too long

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

It is important to see the difference between having a bad day and being deliberately rude to you. And by the way, the friend zone absolutely does exist, and it's really hard to escape. If she has a bad day every once in a while, and she is equally unpleasant to everyone, let it go like it doesn't bother you, even if it does. Never let them see you bleed. If she is being deliberately mean to you specifically, then call her on her shit. Do it in a teasing manner, but also show that she can't walk all over you. A woman doesn't want to be with a man she doesn't respect, and she won't respect you if you put up with whatever shit the throws your way. If a group is there and she is rude to just you, then stop paying attention to her and spend your energy on the rest of them. This will make her see that you are a man of high value who can't be treated like trash.