The inspiration for this question is this---im sitting in the computer hall of the University of Limerick--seated at a computer to my right is a female student--she was fumbling with a ton of books before she sat down--aproximately 1 minute ago i smiled at her--she looked at me like i had 5 heads then made some sort of dismissive snort noise-more or less dissmissing me as another of 500 loosers who have hit on her today and she has had enough.

The other part of this is that despite her attitude, the mini skirt and the make up she is just a glorified 3---i dont give a fuck about her, i dont care if she sees this over my shoulder--to me she is just an ignorant bitch--this isnt sour grapes from me--its just reminded me of something ---all the women who have ever gave me any attitude,nose in the air,called me a creep for looking at them funny bla bla bla--have all been ugly bastards who no one would bother looking at anyway.

Anyway what im trying to get at is this---there is a certain percentage of female creeps/weirdos freaks that your just better off not knowing---to be fair this assesment came from my non community friend Noel--when i was telling him about this HB6 that was still going on and on about her dickhead ex boyfriend 3 years on after they had broke up

I was saying things like--that guy has moved on and has new woman why doesnt she try and meet someone new,or why is she hot and cold and wont go out or meet up--why does she speak one day and not the next

Noel '' Look some of them are like that,some of them dont know what they want,some of them are pathological liars,some of them invent these ex- boyfriends so they have a drama story to tell,some of them are fridgid,you cant do anything with them--SOME OF THEM ARE JUST WEIRDOS''

Anyway id put 20-25% of women in that bracket---what about the rest of you

Just some thoughts...

It might be even higher than this. What if the number of AFC guys is = to the number of girls with the same kind of problem but for the female gender?

The Average Frustrated Bitch. She is an AFB because she acts like a bitch towards any guy who might actually be attracted to her. You gave her a simple IOI, and she reacted with disgust!

The AFB, friend of the AFC, stands around at bars and wonders why nobody will love her for "who she is". Just like the AFC wonders why all the jerks are getting all the girls, the AFB thinks of all those guys getting girls as jerks but for a different reason, because she feels she deserves them, but on her inner merit, not on her social skills or her ability to attract them. This is a fallacy of nature, since nowhere in nature do animals act like this and are highly successful in their mating.

Then when those guys finally approach an AFB she shuts them down because "they only want sex". This in turn causes her sexual frustration to grow, because she is out of touch with her ability to view herself as a sexual creature. She might even have the social skills needed to pick up the attraction of the alpha males at the bar, but she chooses this sidelines approach instead. She is different from the AFC because the AFC will often want to go home with a hot girl who might approach him, but will fumble and often miss all the clear IOI's that the girl is giving.

However, the AFC and AFB have in common that both are frustrating their ability to maximize their social life and fulfill themselves sexually by closing themselves off in different ways. The AFC is afraid of rejection, terrorized by it. The AFB is afraid of rejection but not in the moment at the bar, but after sex when she has developed a real connection to the guy.

Both are insecure. Both are beta. Both tend to go home alone at the end of the night. Both have things they want which go unfulfilled. Both rationalize their weaknesses. Both may actually be attractive people, nice bodies, intelligent, etc... But they lack the refinement and ability to put themselves on the line needed to really be fulfilled in their social life.

They go unnoticed, often spending their time on the sidelines of a bar, and often having conversations about all those "sluts" and "jerks" who are going home with each other, and rationalize their superiority by talking about things like "true love" and "personality". They are sincere in their idealism, but they have missed a crucial point. You can only know yourself through other people, you can only know who you really should be with by being with lots of people.

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Programmer of reality.

Sorry unrelated but I noticed you said you were in UL
I'm doing my leaving and want to get more into to this next year is much "pua culture" in Ireland because this is the first post I have come across with an Irish mention outside Dublin (granted I dont look at a huge amount of post but anywho)

Thanks

University Limerick--7000 students--i am one of 3 puas that i know about---id saythere are 50 here tops---butthere is one thing you should rejoice in knowing and that is that there are great pickings here if you know what your doing---i only got into it about 2 months ago just on the reading stage not much ground work--nothing worth talking about really but at least the shyness is going away andi can actually speak to people thanks to the community---one thing i will advise is STUDY YOUR ASS OFF NOW---its worth it just to get in here even if you areonly coming to have a look---im sitting beside a HB10 right now andshe is non hostile unlike myearlier report---feel free to PM me dude confidentiality insured

thanks man

The AFB is a great analogy of someone with that sort of attitude. The main thing is don't let it get you