I'm a New York boy, I need tips on approaching. How do you direct approach, and continue talking after to get the # without a flake? Any articles you can point to the tips? A lot of girls are down to talk and I always get flaked with the number...

I'm a complete newbie, and I get played by girls so much, I need help and a lot of it. I'm willing to take anyway.

Hey at least you admitted your problem.

You should NOT ask for a girl's number after AT LEAST 28-30 minutes of talking to her.

See most guys ask for the number the first 2-3 minutes... Ok you got the number, but buyer's remorse will cut your balls off.

Neg the girls more, escalate kino, sounds like you're LJBFing girls...

Please be more specific so I can help you more.

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Gonna need some sort of connection with her for her to not flake on ye.

She isn't liekly to want to meet up with some guy she gave her number too after a couple minutes conversation with a guy on the street

How can I do that though, i usually just ask basic shit like what school do u go to, hang out etc...

there's a thread right in general discussion titled "How to make her remember you. Deep psychological stuff" talking about the same sort of thing. You basically want to come off as someone different then every other guy that approaches her or has that conversation. Provide insight into her life and show that you're a fun guy with fun things to talk about that will make her WANT to see you again.

The thing's I'd look at is:
Good Conversational Questions: there are a few on the lovesystems blog.
NLP
Cold-Reads

I need a guide all the way from opening to closing, and length. I'm that lost, I can approach myself and they're cool and flirting and I get flaked with the right #.

I went to walmart last night after work to cash my check and get a few things. Im always looking around when im out and scoping the girls. I was nicely dressed from work still, nice jeans..dark shirt..etc. I kept getting a few EC from passing girls like "hmm...what a cutie!" but most of these girls were with BF's. WTF?? Anywa, im in the dairy aisle and this cute empoyee was doing returns, and I was overlooking her from one of the dairy bunkers, and she made eye contact, smiled and said "Hey...whats up?" I smiled and said "not much, hows it going"
it felt too good or too easy? it just came out of the blue and I was like "wow...she said hi first?? whats going on here!!" but I was happy! She then walked past me and put some milk away and gave me yet another smile, as soon as i was going to open my mouth again, her boss came around the corner to help her.

But this was an experience for me. what would you have done in my shoes? I still need some help too

Like, I'll talk to a girl, be all friendly and stuff and flirty, but when I go home and call a day or two later, I get no interest in hanging out.

properly timebridge.

thats all you need.

get timebridging down and you can nubmer close in 5 minutes with no flakes.

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you think it makes that big of a difference between getting the "date", from calling them ahead of time and time bridging? heh, i'll try it and see the results.

time bridge at the time you get the number.

wtf call ahead and timebridge? what the shit does that even mean?

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i mean, like i just get the # and im like ill hit you up to chill, that usually fails for me, think time bridging would change all that?

um....yeah lol


timebridge, get number, follow through.


if timebridging doesn't, then you have some fundamental and serious weakness in your game.

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There are some very beginner articles going over all the basic stuff on my website, the link is in my sig at the bottom of this post

what part of new york?

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