First of all hi to all of u here.

I am going to skip all this introduction and ask you for an advice.

So I have been gaming this girl for some time. We went out on 4 dates and it was going really well. I teased her all the time, I neg her all the time built attraction, I kino her a lot(spank her ass often, touch her, hug her, etc.) the problem came when I had to advance to kiss her. I didnt do it, even though i had a lots of chances, so I tough I was friend zoned, she still wants to hang out with me and stuff.

Few days ago I ask her to hang out she agrees, and when I told her when and where to meet her, she says I cant I have to go out with my BF, how about another day?
This blew me away, I told her OK we will hang out some other time.

Now I know I lost her, but I was planing to tell her that I like her and I had a bad relationship when I meet her so didnt want to rush thing and missed my chance with her, and that we should not hang out anymore nor talk for some time.
I guess this will take me out of FZ and I can game her in a few months.

note: If I am right and this one guy if her BF I see him as a AFC, and I think they know each other for some time now so this could be + for me. I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS.

best regards

Hey man. Looks like you were doing things right in the beginning, as far as i know.

However, you shouldnt tell her how you feel. Here comes the POSSIBLE truth, hang on, it will probably sting a bit:

You probably screwed your chances when you didnt kiss her. After plenty of chances. She probably just thought you werent interested. Then after that.. She tells you she has a boyfriend. Maybe to telegraph that she only wants you in friend zone.

Anyway. Dont tell her your feelings. Show them instead.

Keep doing exactly what you have been doing, and for the love of god, act unaffected by the fact that she has a boyfriend. Dont talk about him. Keep teasing, being funny and kino'ing. When the chance for a kiss comes, TAKE IT.

Its better to take a chance and do it and get blownoff than not. Because.. Obviously you arent interested in staying in the friends zone.

Good luck

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Excellent advice Going for the kiss at this point might feel like a total douchebag thing to do (I have a feeling you are like me, a guy who often is a bit too nice for his own good), but just act like it was something you didn't really have any control over... when two people really like each other, they are just drawn together... the kiss just kind of happens. (let's pretend this romatic fantasy is true ) So just go for it, and if she acts weird about it or starts talking about her boyfriend just tell her: "I just feel so drawn to you... I don't know how, it just kind of happened". Or at least that's what I would do in your situation! If it doesn't work you won't have lost much... just back off afterwards and stick to your original plan.

Yea I have been thinking about that too, to continue hanging out with her and then if I get the chance to kiss her, I go for it even though I think I will be rejected.
Well it is possible that she wants to be friends now, cuz we have a lots of fun when we are together, her words.

I did act cool about she telling me she has BF, I agreed we can meet another day and that we will talk.

Thx. for your advices.