if I'm just like "Excuse me, this is random..but hi my name is mike, i think your cute"

to a girl walking on her own, or even in a group and i isolate and stop a girl by herself, most likely she'd t hink im just another dude running a game so give me the # and flake me?

or it could easily work if im pretty ok looking? I'm skinny, decent face, good smile

this would be considered a direct opener, where would you take the convo after you say that and shes like ok. the problem with direct openers is your skiping a2 which is female to male interest. which means that your going to have to be freeking hot to have her interested in you as soon as you walk up. the reason situational and openion openers are so popular is because by asking them a normal queston and you dont show your interest tell they are interested in you.

not enough to be above average looking?

If you have a strong inner game, you got good fasion sense, and like you said good smile above average looks, thats a bonus. You gota give off that aura, that charisma that'll just make people anywhere go, "Who is that guy?". You gota be fearless and let them know it. I think it could work if you got that down. - Redkid

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This is what I’ve done
Sense we all have different personalities:
1) I read about twenty openers out loud.
2) I picked five of them that rolled off my tongue and felt the most natural to me.
3) I wrote 5 stories and spiked them with high value.
4) I wrote out five routines that again, rolled off my tongue and felt the most natural.

I went out to a busy street were girls had to wait for a streetlight.

I walked up as they did when they had to stop for the light I used one of the openers.

I did this until I found two of them that again, rolled off my tongue and felt the most natural of them all.

I stuck with these two openers and added the stories and open-ended questions.
The major trick is this,, There is a lot of information, a lot of lines, a lot of routines. All of them are good and they fit a guys personality. I found the ones that fit me the best for my personality. And most importantly I stuck to theses and kept practicing with them until they became part of me.

I was surprised to see the Pick Up Artist and that is what the last guy did. He learned one opener and used until he mastered it.


Blasie

Here is something else that helped me tremendously.

I asked a “natural” his prospective on the pick up thing.

This is what he said:
“Girls what to meet a guy as much as we want to meet them.

When you walk up to a girl and talk to her you are basically asking her if she want to dance – The Mating Dance—

At that point she can say yes or no.

If you have your stuff half way together she is most likely to say yes.

Just like in dancing there are different types of dancing, Slasa, Country, Hip Hop, Tango etc.
So is the Mating Dance, Cocky funny, Speaking into her love language, verbal jousting, Cerebral, Physical, High Status, etc.

He said the thing to remember is this.. Learn a Mating Dance that feels natural to you, there are girls out there who will like that type of dancing you do and you two will meet up.”

Now when I walk up to a girl I’m thinking
“Do you want to dance”

Here is the thing thou --- Find and practice a Mating Dance --- this forum is full of them.

Blasie

Direct openers are pretty hardcore. Not to be cocky, but im genereally concidered good looking, and direct approaches still only work for me once in a great while. which is why I dont really use them anymore.

Im from a big city though, so girls arent exactly super friendly towards complete strangers. Maybe girls are friendlier where your from.

If your absolutly set on using direct approaches, you might wanna try this; I saw it on some website a while ago. I forgot was the site was called, but anyways, pretty much went like this:

Dude went up to a girl and asked her some relevant question to the setting. (like if it was in a mall, he would ask if there was a particular store or something. Etc). Then when she was in the middle of answering him, he would be like "ok, let me interrup you for a second. I dont really care about the store. I just thougt you were really cure and had to come talk to you". Then he would do the cat string thing and keep it going.

Its still direct approach, but it kinda eases the blow. You might wanna try it. Never done it my self cause I dont do much direct aproach, but my wing has succesfully used that routine a few times.

-Zeus

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Direct openers are usually ballz...and it alwasy depends on your level of energy your projecting. If your are confident and express it in your body langauge ,tone and eye contact you have done half the tough part. The other tough part is having the right set of plan for rest of the converstaion....you need to follow through the

1)attraction
2)comfort
3)kino
4)close

it depends on how you do it because every girls different and you just need to calibrate ur game. Since your starting i would suggest some canned stuff to get used to it!

also it doesnt matter how u look as far as u have ur apparel appropriate!
a tshirt and jeans will make u look like a regular guy, same t shirt and jeans with goos sneakers, nice hair style and couple of accessories will give a totally different look and absolutely amp up ur confidence!

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so i'm better off trying to go indirect and being like "you know the direction to..", or this could work just fine on new york girls? what do you recommend, I can show my picture to give you a better understanding of how I look no homo obviously lol

so in a city like new york, direct pick up game is very tough because of the fact that these girls get approached so often like that, so don't bother? i need advice

i beleive that you should be learning more of an indirect approach in contrary to the direct approach becasue gonig up to a girl and saying ehy your cute- theres low game involved in trying to seduce her. keeping your intentions under the radar, and slowly making progress towards showing your interest will be a much better and rewarding strategy i feel.

GoodLuck

F|y

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ill try both, any tips on indirect game?

indirect game is as easy as an indirect opener; meaing an opinion opener like whats your opinion on something (something random) look in the opening section of this forum to get some canned openers if you need, but try and just have an opinion opener that goes with you or with your surroundings.

Goodluck

F|y

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what if your walking behind a girl on the street, you can be like "hey excuse me..this is random but.." then u direct the conversation? what opinion opener would u use and recommend?

you don't even have to say this is random, you can if you want tho... make sure you use a time constraint,then open with your opinion opener like do i look gay to you? they'll probly say; no why? becasue i was out last weekend with some friends and i feel someone take a whole handfull of my ass/butt, i look behind me and its this random gay guy, he walked away and gave me a wink, i was omg i jsut was harrased! everyone was laughing at me, it was horrible. then girls will be either like wow that sucks or start laughing at you, then you start interacting like do you guys ever go out to bars or whatever?then start talking about this party or bar your going to with a bunch of friends this week that should be lots of fun and that they should come if they want. then you read their reactions throughout and go in for the number close. you can build some rapport during the time your talking about going out to clubs and stuff but dont bore them by asking where d oyou go to school ,or where do you work. always make sure to be full of energy, you must come into the set with a higher energy than the girls have. there are many approaches and methods that you can use for these type of day game approaches.

Gooluck

F|y

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