i like opinion openers...one ive got their opinion what can I use to DHV...

Please give your suggestions aside from the cube and eliciting values. I'm looking for a fun DHV routine that i can transition into immediately without rapport having to be build up already, and something that doesnt require a quiet conversational enrionment. the cube is long and not really suites for noisy places and elciting values can be a bit deep and i would prefer doing that once already in rapport...

any ideas?

I am gonna have to answer with questions (crappy move I know but it will help). What hobbies do you have?
What do you do for a living?
What is the kindest thing you have ever done?
What is your dream job? and in what ways are you moving towards that goal?
Finally, what would you say your biggest achievement in life is so far?

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Thanks jaybot, looking for things other than talking about my ambitions/goals. i have a few good stories too which i normally tell. thing is i hate getting into the what do you do for work thing....plus she would have to ask me that in order for me to go into that, i wouldnt initiate it. im looking for something pro-active which i can say hey check this out...and start rolling into the DHV...most of what you said need to be in context and needs to be brought up by her before diving into it. i want something i can throw in at my own will..like hey wana see a cool trick (but not necessarily a trick of course)

I wouldn't worry about fluffing if you mix it with interesting questions and different perspectives it works. For example

PUA:what do you do for a living?
HB: bla blah blah you?
PUA: DHV, Ok, what did you want to do when you were 7 years old (takes them back to childhood and puts them in a playful mood)
HB: I wanted to be
PUA: hahaha I had you down as the princess type

etc etc you can weave techniques easily into standard conversation

also when you avoid fluffing you are more likely to run into LMR IMO unless you are using a style which relies on them not knowing much (DG, GM)

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i get your point but IMO its way to early to get onto the subject of what you do for living.

I totally agree one can veer down that road when building an emotional connection but this is usually AFTER youve opened and have already demonstrated higher value to reach a hook point. Once youve reached the hook point then by all means bring the fluff on.

So would you really ask what she does for a living IN ORDER TO demonstrate higher value? Even if done is a playful and teasing way its certainly not a question you want to ask to start if youre trying to DHV IMO. Its the last thing a gal want to hear when youve just approached her dont you think. As style etc says, tlak about completely differnt things until youve DH'd and reached a hook point, then you can send some of the small talk her way. maybe im missing something but this makes sense to me