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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:34 pm 
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19 year old Virgin.
May change sometime in next two weeks if i don't mess it up. That's where i need your help.
I am relatively physically attractive, well spoken, witty, but inexperienced and have "The Fear". Have been asked out by some 7's in the past (older), but I lose everything the moment things get sexual. Man i disappointed some girls.

First year of university. Many, many missed opportunities.

One girl in particular (She's about a 5. Plain, not ugly) has been hitting on me all year. And when i say hitting on me, shit like putting her hand on my leg, rubbing breasts against me etc. She's been doing that ALL YEAR. I told her I wasn't interested (WHY, Why!?) in January. She didn't stop.

She's leaving at end of year. So last saturday night i said (And this was damn hard), "I'm not at all good at this, but you seem to like me and...". She thought i was rejecting her again, but then i asked if she wanted something casual. She did. We went back to my room. We were both stone cold sober.

She said "I'm only going to be her for a Month, so i don't want to go, y'know, super far..."

Me "Yeah, okay".

Then she kissed me. We made it to third base, (Despite NO skill/experience on my part), but she said she didn't want sex on a first uh, time. She suggested we'd go further next time, that she wanted to shower with me etc. She'd only been with 1 guy before. I told her i was a virgin.

She invited me to a movie on Sunday. Benjamin button. Unsexy as hell. I got Nada afterwards.

She was busy all of this week with essays, toward her final mark. Each time i see her she will poke me, or hug me. I reciprocate. I texted her asking her to come over on Tuesday and Wednesday.
We're doing this in secret (Not sure from who, but she doesn't seem to want people to know either), so i can't take it further.

She handed them all in at 3 today, and has nothing but free time for the next month. As we were approaching my door (She lives near me) some people were hanging around outside. I asked quietly if she wanted to come over later. She said not tonight.

I have exams all next week, then i have a month of free time as well. However, my exams do not count towards my final, mark, as i am in the year below her.

Basically, what is going through her head? What is the most reliable way to get her in the sack? I suppose there is no need to rush, might be better to break of contact totally until exam week is over (No danger of her forgetting me)?

Basically, total newbie here, in need of some advice.

[previously posted in the introduction forum, but no-one seems to visit that]


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 7:24 am 
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basically, what you did right was not showing interest in the first few months. when she groping you and stuff.

i think you messed up a bit when you started to show interest in your room.
i think what you shouldve done when she said no to sleeeping with her was just "shut off" i mean, just ignore her and be cold towards her.

that way she'd try to win your affection again, im a newbie too so, yeah.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:18 am 
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".............I'm not at all good at this, but you seem to like me and.........".

This keeps her from thinking that you are a player, but at the same time it can imply that you have very little confidence and/or you are unsure about what you want.

If you reject her a first time, and the second, you dont seem sure of wether having or not something casual or sexual with her, might seem like a lack of desicion.

Besides, you dont always have to go for the easy kill. Meaning that you shouldnt have something with her just because shes willing to fuck you.

Im gonna Quote MYSTERY METHOD ( a book I´d recomend you to start reading )
Quote:
Here is what it means if you have no standards when it comes to women:
1) I will take "whatever I can get (which is not much.)
2) There is nothing special or unique about you, I settled for you, because I have no sexual choice. I'm grateful just to find someone who is willing to fuck a loser like me; apparently that someone is you.
3) Being with me makes you feel common and used.


"She invited me to a movie on Sunday. Benjamin button. Unsexy as hell. I got Nada afterwards. "

dont let her make that kind of desicions unless you know theyre gonna favor you.

if she invites you over to watch a flick, you pick the movie.... you can go for something cheesy, or erotic sensual or something with kissing scenes.
Its something like saying to her " what do you want to talk about?".... again dude, youre gonna be responsible for the chit chat if you can make a good conversation, with sexual inuendos all over you can get her attracted pretty soon and make her more willing to sleep with you. other wise you give her the choice to talk about boring stuff that in the end will bore yourself. She wants a man thats in control of the situation.

about laying her. id say.you either make her wait till the end of the finals period. or you hit on her really hard...
Dont give her the chance not even for a second to think that youre desperate to F her...................

because youre not, because shes not that cute, because shes SPAM her stuff, and you have a bit higher standards, because you have more choices on women, thats because you know what you want in life.... are you following me??'

Brief advice on your situation. Call her one night that both of you are free, set up a date, and go KINO on her, Kiss her, and if she fights your attempts to F her, then Freeze out.

quoting mystery method again..
Quote:
The Freeze-Out
When YOU are in the attract phase, YOU can bust her balls when she busts yours. But once you reach comfort, if she busts on you, you can only freeze-out by withdrawing attention. She will say, what's wrong?" You say, "Nothing." (Not sulking! The delivery must be sincere, like it's really no big deal)
Then, after she is punished by your silence for an awkward moment, return to comfort by finding something to IOI her for.

She learns quickly not to bust on you because, (1) you've already proven that you can bust back (in attract phase) and (2) she feels discomfort whenever she busts on YOU. This is your opportunity to show her YOU aren't always an asshole like you were in attract phase.
So freeze-outs are a way to train her. You can use discomfort sparingly to teach her that being nice to you means comfort and fun. When the time has come to
build comfort, it's counterproductive to continue being cocky and ball busting. The punish/reward dynamic must be used instead.

This phase is also your opportunity to demonstrate that you are capable of making uncomfortable situations comfortable again. The use of sniper negs is great here, like saying, "you have something on your nose" and handing her a tissue.
She feels uncomfortable but it's not your fault, it's God's. Right after this, she will feel so small After she notices that you are freezing her out a bit (not as if you're being cruel, but rather as if you aren't interested in her), give her a compliance rest and then reward her compliance with an IOI In this way you are can continue rewarding her, but only for compliance and not misbehavior.
PLease read through,

Ideas posted here are only opinions. ok? so try changing your focus on your game and youre on :)

peace !

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