I'm talking about some small, insignificant lies to make yourself look better...I haven't really been PUA-ing recently because I met someone (a hb 11) that I would like to start a relationship with...and we're both serious about this and really like each other...thing is, I told her a couple small lies. Some examples are:

She saw my watch (a rolex) on a date and said, "wow, that must have cost you a pretty penny" me: yup, it's a $15000 watch...realistically, it's fake but looks EXACTLY like the same thing and even comes with fake papers...I'm a middle class man and can't afford a watch like this at all...

She wrote on my myspace, "you must be a real pimp, look at all those girls wanting to hang out with you." me: ya, my friend took me to a club and we met these random women. Don't worry, I gave them all to my buddies because I already have my babe...realistically, those girls are all my friends and nothing more just wanting to hang out. Before, I have met a few women at clubs but they were all just a hit it and quit it thing.

She asked me what I did for a living. me: I work for a financial firm and they're paying for my schooling but I recently got laid off, they cut about 20 jobs in my sector...realistically, I'm a business major with a non paid internship and that's it...I work as a waiter while interning 15 hours a week while going to school...

I feel a bit guilty I guess for telling these lies...I don't know if I should keep it as is or if I should tel her the truth when things go further...

The fake roles thing shouldn't be a problem at all...because if she is that interested in a watch...I would drop her cause she's gonna drop you hard if she thinks you have money then she finds out the truth!

The HBs all over your myspace...is kinda up in the air. As long as you told her that they are all just friends and nothin more...she probably won't look into it and if she does then you're set...but if you told her that you got with all of them then if she starts to talk to any of them, well you're pretty much screwed!

It's pretty fucked up that you have to lie about your status just to feel confident...it kinda sucks when you lie and have to worry about that shit afterwards, doesn't it!!!

Quick fix to that! DON"T LIE!!! Now it's ok to fib a little if used in a C/F manner so that she doesn't take you seriously...that way if she does take you seriously you can always just use that as a neg like "Wow...you really believed that!? That's so cute, you're so gullible!"

Long story short, be honest...all the time...but if you absolutely feel the need to lie then at least make it something sooooooo minor that it won't come back to slap you in the face!!

-Crain Diesel

Well . . . here's my take on lying: DON'T GET CAUGHT.

All of your lies can be found out quite easily through a normal relationship so these are not "insignificant" but very significant. And I disagree about the Rolex/gold digger issue. The issue here isn't about some little watch . . . it's about lying through your teeth because you "think" you can get in a girl's pants.

Personally, I'd be more skeptical about girls who hear all these lies and go, "Well . . . OK, I guess I can forgive you this time . . ." - What the hell? How low does a girl's self esteem have to be? Would you even want to date a girl who finds out that a guy is a total lying chump and still tags along?

Advice: Fess up now before you both put energy, effort, and emotions into this. Just tell the whole thing in one tiny bite sized chunk and tell her it's because you think she's so special and that she just drove you nuts. . . and you're so crazy about her . . . and you've NEVER done this before. (See, now this is a good lie)

Now sit your insecure ass down and think about the following for the future. You're a hardcore business major, working a cash job and interning at the same time. That's more hardcore than 99% of all posters here. You have lots of female friends. (WOMEN LOVE THIS and I dare say they love this more than a guy who tends get strangers lusting after them but probably has no female friends) And the watch? You could have just gone . . "I've always wanted one so I got this one as a visual goal. . . yup . . . someday . . ." You're a young man . . . the coolest things in a young man is drive, vision, goal setting . . . and you've got all of this.

To me, your lies, if anything, lowered your value. Man, if you're gonna lie . . . and get caught, at least make up some lies that'll help your game. You've got this girl in spite of your weak lies. . . and if she's still around, I bet she'll like the real you even more. . . but of course, no guarantees.

Don't lie, just don't tell everything or twist the words.

these are not small lies dude, these are straight lies.... and she will find out
and she won't think its small lie at all, thats 3 lies, women NEED to trust who they're with, I've been blown out at least 4 times just because I said I was kinda of seducer even in a inocent way they all saw it completely different from what I meant! the one time I was with a 10 girl from honduras we broke up once when I was trying to tell her I had a heart of stone for all my life but she was changing me, she just heard heart of stone!
do you realize the importance of this things to women? so dude, never make-up this kind of thing again in your life if you have any respect for women, any value for a women that will stay by your side

I sugest you do what kasabi says

Just avoid lies that will get you in trouble if the relationship gets serious. The rolex lie: no problem you could just be cocky funny and say "did you fall for that?"

But most of all, like Mystery said "it's not lying, it's flirting"

Funny story about this, I went through a whole night telling everyone I was a proffessional surfer (I surf occacionally but I stink) and I got a lot of peoples attention by talking about my stories (obviously all made up) and the day after I had a few numbers but didn't call any of them because I didn't want to keep living in a lie.
Now I only tell little white lies, "no I'm not drunk" "yes I like your friends" "no I'm not gonna attempt to sleep with you on the first date"

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Guys . . . this is where "lies" come into play.

You don't lie that you're some surgeon who just came back from Doctors without borders in Laos or whatever. This is just plain stupid and it's on par with the OP's creations.

However, in certain situations, especially those homogeneous night spots where everybody is a damn lawyer or some yahoo, it's hilarious to open up with whack lies if people ask "whack questions".

I mean . . . it's OK when a guy asks you what you do because this is a guy thing to do in order to size up "alpha" vs. "beta". But when a girl asks you stuff like, "How old are you . . . what kind of car do you drive . . . what do you do?" - right after meeting, this is absurd. So they get absurd in return.

"I hitch hiked here . . . Yes, I am what you would call an 'International daredevil' . . . 'You may have guessed, I am a stunt man' . . . 'I am 50 years old' . . . 'I have just returned from my training at the Shaolin Temple' . . . 'I am training for the Middle Eastern Kiting Championships' . . . etc . . .

This works for me because I can ad-lib and just GOOOOO with it. Of the hundreds of times I've done this, I've gotten ONE bad response. This prissy Indian girl who was short on words began smoking nervously because she knew she couldn't keep up, "You're lying." (Puff, puff, puff)

Kasabi: Yes, you caught me. I am in fact, not a kung fu master.

Indian girl: So what do you really do?

Yaaaaaaaaaaawn . . . . .

Some girls actually go along with it pretty seriously, "Oh my God? Really? That's so cool! I've heard about daredevils but what do daredevils actually do?"

Some girls go along with it at a high comedic level, "That is fucking great because I just returned from Thailand. Muai thai baby! Hai ya!!" (This one really did a knee to my belly with hands up and everything)

Some try to play along but they suck and these are the most endearing to me, "Really? Well, I guess I'm . . . let's see . . . hmm . . . OK, I'm a french maid then."

"No you're not."

"Why? I could be a French maid!"

"OK, you are . . . " (After looking up and down her body and ripping her clothes off with my eyes)

Clubs/bars are places to have fun and go nuts. It's not a place to "deceit" people into sucking your cock and it's 100% not a place to discuss global economics, your investment portfolio, or your make believe position in a make believe class system in our society. . . its' weak . . .

Pretty much as Kasabi put it.

Be genuine or absurd.

Story comes to mind: I was hanging out with this girl + her friend + mutual friend at the mall. Oddly enough, her friend who seemed 'protective' at first gave the two of us plenty of time alone, but that's not the point. At one point she asked me what I do for fun and I stole Tucker Max's line of "I find Puerto Rican prostitutes and cut them into tiny pieces and bury them in shallow graves next to the interstate." The funniest part is that she took it totally seriously, but not in a "this guy is a psycho" kind of way...

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