Ok, So I've reading all of the "Sticky" topics and came across the one that mentioned that at some point every AFC thinks he's the shit because he's read the material! I am SO glad I read that!!!

I ran into a little issue the other night after opening a few sets, it was actually a reverse effect of how my nites usually go. It started off perfectly, I opened a 2 set of 8's after noticing that one of them was standing with her arms crossed, who I immedeatly chose as my target...this is at a night club by the way...

ME: You know you're never gonna have fun if you don't open up a little!
HB8: What do you mean?
ME: Well, for starters you aren't smiling when you should be having fun, also your arms are crossed, which basically says "Don't even think of coming over here!"
--She immedeatly uncrossed her arms and smiled--
HB8: Well, if you noticed all that why'd you come over?
ME: To help you have fun!

It worked great and she was the sweetest girl to talk to! I ended with a number close by choice because it was my buddy's going away!

Well there were a couple more sets in there but each one got worse and I couldn't figure out why....until my last set of course! So here's how it went. I was at the bar getting a drink, which was a bad idea because I was pretty buzzed already! I notice a HB8 hold eye contact so I fingered for her to come over....

ME: So, you know I just made you come with one finger right?! Imagine what I can do two!!
HB8: *giggled* Wow, you're pretty confident to say something like to a random person!
ME: Haha, Well, you know! (just one of the weird things I say)
HB8: I do now! So, What's your name?
ME: Take a wild guess!
--She guesses a couple times and doesn't get it right--
HB8: Oh...that name doesn't really fit you!
--This is where it goes down hill...and very quick thanks to me--
ME: Well, it's my name so deal with it!
HB: No need to get upset about it! So are you gonna buy me a drink?
ME: I dunno...Buy me one first and we'll see what happens!
HB8: I don't buy drinks for guys!
ME: Well, WTF makes you think I'm gonna buy you one?!?
--BLAAM just like that!--

It was horrible I went from Mr. Joe Cool to Super Cocky Asshole in 2.10 seconds! And thinking back on it I had been more cocky that night than any other so far! Since then I've been practicing on keeping my cool...And one HUGE thing I've noticed is that whenever I'm focusing on keeping my cool, my body language is like...perfect...I even had a clerk at the mall say somthing about my BL!

Any comments or suggestions...or even random banter would be great!

-Crain Diesel

First one was sooo sick man haha im so trying that one out!!:D

second one was still good but like you said you were just cocky and drunk.
im sure if you wernt drunk you would have pulled it off. you might have sounded angry when you told her to deal with it.

I already wrote that one down for myself...I hadn't ever used it before and it just hit me on the spot! It was probably one of the best openers I've ever tried, hands down!

You're probably right about the booze aspect of it, but I hadn't really planned on opening any sets that night because I'm the only one of my buddy's that's taken a step into this world so they have no idea what I'm talkin about...so I drank...but it just didn't feel right without opening a few sets, lol

-Crain Diesel

You weren't funny enough to balance the cocky.

You ended up as an asshole.
You got upset about her name comment. You should have turned it around on her and said her name didn't suit her either.
"You look more like a Doris."

Then she she asked you to buy her a drink. You didn't play that right at all. This is like Improv. You can't say no.
You can say "Yes" or "Yes but..."
"Yes, but you have to try whatever I buy for you. And you also have to buy me one you think I'd like."

Supposedly you're never supposed to buy girls a drink, but like all rules they're more like Guide lines.

Cinnamon

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Wow...I don't know why I've never thought of that when I get the drink question....I've always stuck with the line I used. I'm gonna try that one out for sure, thanks for the advice!

-Crain Diesel

It might also help to not get "pretty buzzed" having a few drinks is fine...loosen up, have fun, it's why we go to bars right? But for me, #1 turn off is drunkenness or SEEMINGLY drunkenness.

But fun post, and the first opener was awesome. I would have responded as well.

Yea...I rarely drink that much when I go out anymore! Like I had said though, it was a little different scenario! I hadn't planned on goin to practice my game, I was there to have a good night with my buddy who left!

Even saying all that I should've known that I was going to open at least one set...A little better self control is deffinately in order, lol!

Thanks for the advice

-Crain Diesel

Firstly can I say great opener and fair play for using it. I don't think i have the confidence yet to try such an outrageous approach.

Just a thought, when she said your name did not suit you, you could of asked her what name she did think suited you. Then what ever answer she gave neg her on it.

Well, I wish I could take credit for that one but I can't...I will honestly say that I don't remember where I read it! And I don't think I could've pulled that one off when I was sober...but after seeing the initial positive reaction I deffinately will try it again...maybe this weekend!

-Crain Diesel