Not how to kiss close, obviously. I dont have a problem with that anymore...

The problem is that the HBs think im horrible at it and dont have a problem saying it to my face.

Its not like I make weird noises, slobber, try to bite off their face etc, its just that there is something missing or something that I am fundimentally doing wrong.

Frenching or just lips on lips, How do you do it right?

If it's a first kiss, definitely don't french, at least not at first.

I would say lips on lips, gently, and try not to be slobbery. Pay attention to what she does, some women like the soft closed lip kisses at first, others are more agressive.

Just follow her cues. If you find she's more responsive, open your mouth slightly, and you might find HER slip YOU the tongue.

But anyway, IMO the key is to be soft and gentle at first. Also, another good touch is to touch her face as you do it, you can use one or both hands, (I like both) then lay the soft kiss on her. Not too long, leave her wanting more. I usually pull away a bit, and if she doesn't, I go back in for a little more.

Works for me.