I'm going to call this girl I met on craiglist to setup a time for our date, I don't really know much about her because after 2 emails of cocky funny she asked me out.

Since I'm going to be calling her later today, should I just keep it short, maybe ask how her day was then leave all the questions for our date, or should I have a longer convo?

Yeah always leave her wanting more, you have that right, but as far as asking how her day was: Depending on how you word it you can almost make yourself seem submissive as a guy. Simply asking her a question like that, how you been, how was your day.

Without a doubt, if you have all your plans in action just be yourself man, but for future references you should start off with an open ended question.

How would I do it? I would make her laugh over the phone (I don't recommend impersonations unless you're reallly good.)

tell her the plans for the date. And then you can use those plans as a perfect vantage point for your humor to make her laugh. The goal is to make her wanting more. Once you can tell she doesn't want to hang up you know you've got her hooked.


But if you wanna date her with conventional means, sure go for the casual approach, the only person that can make this girl not like you is yourself.

Keep it short. Don't ask many questions. Maybe tease her a bit. Lead her.

Tell her what you are doing (something that you would be doing anyways) and she should meet you. Or just command her to meet you without asking anything: "Meet me at 7:00 at Starbucks, etc..."

You could throw in a confusing neg like "you sound taller than I expected" or something. Also many MPUAs recommend placing a bizarre and unjustified requirement like "make sure you wear green" or "bring an umbrella (on a sunny day)". This will add a sense of intrigue and mystery, as well as a playful ding to her self value. Never tell her why to do these things (there is no real reason), and if she asks just respond with something like "you'll see" or whatever.

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shitcakes I think I really fucked it up, I rambled too much, damn it. Looks like this chick is into another guy anyway (saw on myspace). So ah well. I should've chatted her up on aim for a while before I talked to her on the phone.

I don't feel as bad though. Before when I get rejected, I would be depressed for a week, and loss all my confidence. Luckily, this time I'm talking to a few other girls so it doesn't hurt as bad. Got a date setup with other another chick for Friday;) yeepiee

Bro, here's a great tip, I learned from Juggler.

Before you make a call that's giving you nerves likes this, call your best friend or someone you have a good comfortable rapport with and don't mention anything about what you're about to do. Just enjoy talking with your friend.

Then call her. You'll have a rhythm and you won't be in your head. Also, relax, yeah this girl was into a guy, but that's before you came along. She gave you her number, possible IOI. Sounds like you rejected yourself before she did.

Keep up the mojo though. You sound like you're on the right track.

Peace

Hey thanks for the tip.

I just checked my voicemail, I guess she missed my picture when we talked initially, but she added me to myspace then I received a midnight voicemail telling me that I'm incredibly cute, I guess I did reject myself too early. Game on.

side note, I read a new blog post she made this morning said she spent time talking to another kid and she really liked him, so I don't know what the deal is, I'm going to test the waters a little more, but more and more it sounds like she's gaming me, giving me fake IOIs perhaps? Should I just ditch this girl and work on the other 2 girls?

Nice to see you got back on your feet. As for making initial phone calls...

Be yourself, but keep it SHORT! Chinaski's advice is good because talking to a friend beforehand will reduce stress and make you sound more natural. Some of Plethora's tactics work too, but use at your own discresion.

I'd keep a convo like this under 5 mins, let her know where and when you plan to meet, use a little C+F, and have a good time with it. Until the date happens, there's nothing you really need to be stressed out about.

Yeah good instincts.

It seems like she's really telegraphing her passes here. It could be that she's not that intelligent, but it sounds like she could be using you as a pawn here to get to another guy.

The truth is that if all of these "IOI's" are genuine, then they still will be a little bit down the road. Freeze her for a little bit and then initiate something that requires her to put herself out there.

Honestly though, I've heard some crazy stories about craigslist pick-ups and would never go that route. It's gonna be a lot less time consuming to just go out and hit the field.

Either way, good luck.

Peace

This Friday hopefully, I'm going to go out the bars to sarge, I'll be going with a couple guys that are pretty good with girls, so hopefully I'll able to close atleast 1 set or try, I just need to get over my approach anxiety.

As for the craigslist girl, I'm not going to initiate any more contacts till she contacts me back. I know for sure she's not stupid, so she might just be playing me.

Good idea. happy sarging.

Peace