a girl approached me on friday at college. im astounded it even happened. shes hot. well basically i played it cool and we hung out for lunch. my friends were there. specifically my friend matt, whos tall good looking and great with women. as soon as he got to the table, literally a minute passed and she was totally into him. shed forgotten about me. we left him behind later, and another friend of mine came along. This girl was ging crazy for him, telling him how cute he was etc, etc. she didnt even say goodbye to me when we all left her. what the hell went wrong. should i avoid bringing girls near my friends?

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"I learnt my passion in the good old fashoned school of lover boy!"

Try to AMOG him and remove him of his game. Then the girl will prolly turn to you because your rolling in game.

Hmm, not sure on some of the details here. Did you just meet when you went to have lunch with your friends? If so, I might consider meeting somewhere with just the two of you at first; otherwise, you haven't given her too much more reason to talk to you as opposed to your friends (she barely knows any of you). When you guys sat down with your friends, was she initiating most of the dialog with them, or were your friends gaming her? If your friends were gaming, I'd slap them in the backs of their heads and tell them to have some respect. Otherwise, if it was her doing the initiating, definitely see my first point - you just have to build a stronger link with her so that you're the most interesting person at the table when you do introduce her to your friiends.

Slickback's right. You have to be the AMOG or you won't get shit. Most of the time, looks are what's going to get the girl interested first. You're buddy obviously had that going for him so you need to compensate by being more interesting.

when your friend came in, he got five points for his looks and a couple for his game, putting him at seven.

you were there with, lets say three points for you looks and three points for your game, putting you at six.

what you need is to have at least three more points than him to lock in as the AMOG, and since you can't change looks all that much, you need to step up your game four more points.

(if you don't understand my scoring system, comment back and i'll explain in fuller detail)

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Anyone can give up. It's the easiest thing in the world. To hold it together as you walk through this hell, when everyone else would understand if you fell to your demons, that is true strength.

Doesn't matter if hes good looking or not...Beta him right away.

Introduce them like "Hey this is my friend...hes got a HUGE DICK! Its ridiculous!"

That could work in many ways...

1) Its outlandish...totally unexpected. Will start making her think you are unpredictable

2) Your friend will laugh...so will she. MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT! Just smile.

3) It establishes you as the Alpha.

i think she was gaming him lol. lots of questions. and i forgot to kino. i know its stupid of me but kino is not a thing i really enjoy. im weird about touching. but yeh, he didnt kino or anything. and i dont see how the huge dick thing would work. hes the kinda guy that would totally play off it. at the start her friend came along too who is kinda my friend, and he had to go. then thats when she started going into my friend. ill try the amog tactic. but yeh, when i see her friday, ill get her to hang out for lunch again and go somewhere more private, with just me her and theother friend. the other friends great - funny enough to keep conversation good but not alpha anough to phase me at all. ill try and flirt and kino a bit. someone did assume we were going out though and we got a little hug type thing in. =/ ill give the stuff a go though. cheers guys. any other pointers?

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"I learnt my passion in the good old fashoned school of lover boy!"

Simple. He showed more confidence than you did.

Women don't choose who they are attracted too. They just are attracted. It is up to you to produce the kind of vibe that is going to attract women. Your friends probably produced a more positive energy than you. She didn't say goodbye, because YOU didn't say goodbye. She is probably thinking, "Damn, Shred didn't even say goodbye to me when he left".

The social interaction is on you, not her.

CK

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i was really confident and cool man. i think my friend just knows what to do. tbh, its in his nature to just be better. even if he aint trying. ill speak to her on friday and sort stuff out.

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"I learnt my passion in the good old fashoned school of lover boy!"

so like, he's a natural?

pardon me for saying this, but dude, it doesnt matter if you were cool. attraction is based on social proof, and your friend outclassed you on this occasion. try being more talkative, tell dhv stories, ask some opinion questions .... do something to show youre more interesting than any guy shes met that day, and youll end up being the centre of her attention

Not only does he have more confidence, but he also started gaming her AFTER you did. The newest shiny toy gets the most attention. Stop bringing girls to Matt like human sacrifices. Keep them for yourself.

fair play. ill speak to her on friday and probly hang out a little more intimately any good ideas for places to take her? its a normal town and i cant afford to buy her lunch (not that i would anyway) hmm we only have an hour as well.

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"I learnt my passion in the good old fashoned school of lover boy!"

Avoid lunch and set it up for another time. Lunch is what friends do. If you keep doing lunch, you are going to end up in the friend zone. If you do lunch, make sure to set up a time to hook up on another NIGHT.

CK

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success is my only mother fucking option, failure is not.

thats really my only option man. i wont see her out of college cos she lives a mission away. and i see her just beforelunch in singing lesson anyway. and im not ready to hang out another night anyway. its not natural for me yet. and i just found out. shes a devout christian.no sex before marriage. sounds like a challenge rather than an obstacle tbh. so that shows improvement sort of... lol

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"I learnt my passion in the good old fashoned school of lover boy!"

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... took my gf out to dinner with a couple of my friends once..... yea its been about a month and one of my "friends" and her are now dating. be careful, and if your friends are gaming a girl they knew you were working on, let those assholes know you gotta problem

it will get better, good luck

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