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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:10 am 
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I'm veyr new to the game and have had some success but need heeps of work. I usually have a wing. I have just moved to a new state though and don't really know anyone.

I have tried going out by myself but it feels painfully obvious when I go to a club or bar that I'm not with friends. I know this is a very broad question but how do you go out and meet women solo? What sort of openers do you use?

Many thanks for your help in advance :-)


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:02 am 
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As someone who generally does the actuall picking up and openers by myself its much the same.
When I went out by myself I knew that there would be not a person I would know. That meant that as soon as I went in I had to talk to somone or risk standing by myself. Once you are talking to anyone (guy or girl), move on to the group next to them.
Im not going to say the openers because they dont matter, you can use any. I probs wouldnt go for me and my buddies are arguing over xyz, but you can do other ones.
If your desperate for help pretend (or not) to be on the phone and use that as your buddy who your fighting with.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:03 am 
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Open, open, open . . .

I was in your situation about 2 months ago. Just arrived to a new city and had to build up a social network from scratch. Some tips:

Befriend people you live close to. Anybody you see in the elevator, front lobby, gym, etc . . . Open, open, open. With these guys, you know they live right around you so you don't have to press. Usually, you'll see them going to or coming from other places. Befriend guys, girls, everyone. Everybody in these situations talk about, "Where are you from? Just moved in?" and that goes to "What do you do on weekends?" . . ."What's a hot club?", etc . . . Don't be shy. . . "Hey, which unit do you live in? Hey, let's hook up for beers and cards at my place . . . OK, give me your number . . ."

When sarging alone, just open the first set you see. I love tag teams. That's what I call 2 hb sets. Sure other combos work but when working alone and there are more than 2 girls, they tend to get clicky with one another. One girl alone and there's a slight sense of threat with this immediate 1 on 1 situation. Anyhow, this isn't really important. Just open.

Stories make great openers. Girls love stories and fantasies. Guys are all about logistics. You go to a party and what do 80% of the guys talk about? 1. Directions and which road they chose to get there. 2. Why x road is better than y road. 3. Which road they'll take on the way home. 4. Sports scores. 5. "Wow, that _____ and _____ are really hot!"

But you could even take these boring topics and twist them in ways to keep women interested. It could be something like:

"You know what they should do? They should invent a car that does all the driving for you. It should make all those turns, give automatic alerts to flip birdies at assholes and parallel park while it brews me a cappuccino. We can space travel and they still can't make a car that does this?" . . . "We go to the movies in a car like this and we could theoretically make out while going to the movies. See the marketing angle here? We could be like making out and we'll go, hey, hey, birdy light! Flip the birdy!"

Keep in this frame. Start off with a better topic than "directions" and you could give it a much better sexual angle. You see people in bars and usually, they're bored to death. Offer fun. Open . . . close . . . move . . .

But don't make the mistake I made and continue moving on and pivoting friends (that you've already made). Once you build up a fun and strong group. Put some energy into it. And if you run into negative people, just drop em' like a sack of potatoes. You can find and befriend positive, fun people. Just because you're the new guy in town with no friends yet doesn't mean you have to settle for negativity.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:15 am 
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great tip, how about going up to some people and asking them "where are all the cool people? Im looking for the REALLY lively people!." Im sure that they would qualify that they are the cool ones, if not, then there obviously really lame people and you dont wanna talk to them anyways.


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Going out solo is better, especially if you want to improve. You are FORCED to engage in set after set and you can not simply sit back in the comfort zone with your buddy. Bringing wings into a set usually works towards your disadvantage (only beneficial sometimes for two sets, and even then only if you and your wing have your stuff together). It also shows less confidence, and most importantly shows that you are probably trying to get something from one of the women.

If the topic comes up about where your friends are you can just be honest and say 'I came alone tonight. I love meeting new people." Or you can tell them to go meet your friends, take them on your arms, do a lap or two of the bar (gaining social proof to everyone) and say "oh, maybe they left, but back to..." Going out solo should never feel awkward or sly. If you are the outgoing, social type of guy that you should be projecting anyways, then you can make dozens of friends in that club. First set on the left you can always come back to later in the night (or any previous set) if you find yourself feeling uncomfortable.

Just get out of the house. The world is your oyster.

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I have said it before... The first thing you do when you enter the room, open an all guy set or a mixed set... It gives you social proof. No problems.

It is not a problem to sarge alone, you just have to feel comfortable in your own skin.


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not tryin to hijack the thread, but im in the EXACT same situation, except im only 19 so clubs arent rlly an option, where are some other good places to go solo sarging

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Anywhere there's people :)

If you're in school/uni, you can try the people in the cafeteria...


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