Ive read MM and some Magic Bullets, but the part in MB is very small and not detailed really.

So Im asking the community this:

Is there any online sources that I can utilize or books?

What I see, is that Day game differs alot from Night game.

Thanks for any info.

The 'pick up artist' series with Mystery shows the basic tactics used for day game. See episode 4 and 7 (i think).

Pick you openers carefully tho, because it is of course a totally different SPAM.

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I recently recieved some help from PanPan on day game. Books do nothing just approach. Go out and open five sets a day everyday just do it, dont worry about reactions yet just used to day approaches and ur game will figure it out itself trust me

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In my experience, women are more captive audiences and more receptive during day game. You will probably only have their attention for a short period so if you are going to use routines, make them short. Complements are also much more powerful (I think because they assume you a higher value for approaching during the day). Couple the complements with teasing and you will hook her. If you want to # close then you might have to time bridge, so have an event in the near future ready to invite her to.

This is just intuitive stuff for me and I haven't seen any material on it either.

I approached this one girl today, she was like a HB 9.5 or so.

I thought she would be like a Senior in HS, turns out she is a freshman, which in my mind I was like "shit, im f-in screwed." This was my first attempt and probably going to be one of the worst IMO ever. But I did go headstrong in my approach though I paused alot, I conquered this AA, so if I can do it once, I can do it again. Plus it was at the gym so one point for me.

So I approach her on the treadmill (she stays for like 10 minutes and then just mysteriously dissapears- I would have rather approached her somwhere else but this seemed to be the only place). I walked up to her:

me: Mind if I join you ( I get on the treadmill next to her)
she: (nods and doesnt say a word, which confuses me a little)
me: (so I get on a match her speed), So you from blahblah Highschool?
she: yes
me: ah well (conversation stalls here for lack of imput, I dont really care about my image at this point- I have high social status- this wont distrupt my overall- but maybe in her eyes).
me: (so I try to restart the conversation) So I see you here all the time why are you always alone?
she: What do you mean?
me: well I usually see girls here in groups (mind you she is young, and I figured since she is like my age she would be friends with somone in the gym) you know help eachother work out?
she: dont remember the convo
me: (another restart) So what grade are you in? Junior? Senior?
she: Freshman (at which point I said to myself dammit).

I dont remember anymore really at this point except I tried to restart the conversation again. I remember her saying something like "I dont come to the gym to meet guys" and I remember saying "neither do I", which then she laughed (which is a plus). After that I said something like "nice talking to you" and put out my hand to exchange names, except she didnt say hers and didnt shake my hand. At which point I knew I really F-ed up but then again, after I walked away- I felt like hot shit. If I can approach women like that (in a good way) then I can do it again.


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Yikes, that was pretty rough.

First of all there are some physical problems with approaching a woman on a treadmill. Also, your questions were forced and boring. It is apparent that she felt like you were just trying to make conversation, and have nothing interesting to say. IMO if you had nothing to talk about then you should have used a canned opinion opener and got a discussion going. After this forum opens then cocky-funny pieces are easy to dish out. If you let the conversation stall and have nothing to say, then it is over. If you really can't go on then just leave on a high and say you will catch her later. The next time you see her you will already have rapport built up and it should be easy to re initiate the conversation.

Ill admit it was bad, but it doesnt matter if I did good shes way too young, and after that I was like "I shouldnt be here."

Also since it was day game is there a template I should be working on?

Like:

Direct opener----->qualifying?

Or what? Im confused a bit. What about negging too.

Ya know now that I have experiance a pretty bad one, and although I tried doing it, she told me that she could tell that I was watching her, which was.... I know.... creepy. I had been doing so for like a month. Reading up on my MM and books to get a reasonable idea on what to do. The thing is, the MM is made for Night game not day, so basically I was screwed. I still need to learn about Frame control and Qualifying.