Hey Guys,

Firstly i'm 18 years old. And i've just recently started sarging in clubs (in the uk). I'm also currently at college and i find when i'm walking around college during the day time i can walk past girls get IoI's easily and smile at them and get return smiles. I don't do cold approach pickup at college but i feel as though i'd have no problem number closing most girls.

However, I've just started going to clubs. I really don't let my age affect my game i opened and held conversations with 26-27 year olds last week and 24 year olds this week. But, I always get shit test about my age. I usually pass the tests. but they are usually very persistant to find my age despite my best efforts. I've also found it much harder and more competitive compared to college as there are older guys around. I know this is a limiting belief. This does not affect my game. I merely want to be realistic.

I'm relatively new to the game. Introduced to it about 6 months ago. Reading 3 months, in field for 3 months. In the last two weeks i've only had two potential k-close opportunities. One of which the girls best friend pulled her away. I've had zero number closes. I don't know whether this is because of my age or not?? Or my lack of game?? Or am i simply expecting too much...i'm always aiming for a same night lay.

Any Experiences you guys would like to share about being young and gaming in clubs would be great. Has this affected you're results. Has gaming got better with age??

P.S. I know now that i'm going to get posts saying about inner game and about this being a limiting belief. My inner game is solid in my opinion.

let me ask you something if you hated girls who smoked and one hit on you would you turn her down....you probably woudl....

if your dont like girls 2 years younger then you and you had a 16 year old hitting on you would you go for her no you wouldnt...

girls at bars are looking to have fun, some to hook up...but most people keep it within there range and some girls dont care...

just cause your spitting game and this and that doesnt mean your gonna make that girls wanting of a guy closer to her age disapear you get what im saying....

some people dont like smokers they wont go for smokers, some want drinkers so they will only go for people who drink, some like people older or 1 or 2 years younger so they will only go for that and not break their rules


so when a girl isnt finding your age to be appealing sorry dude its either two things...

your game isnt appealing to her aka she doesnt have attraction

or

your age is a bit to young for her liking......


and yes it has happened to me i was 20 and she was 25...thought i was cute came to talk and of course you have to wear colored bands int he club indication older or younger then 21 i had red she had green......she say i was under age and she said sorry i thought you were older and walked over to the bar.......hey! it happens no biggy, plus she drinks ALOT lol and i dont like drinkers, so i wasnt interested

questions??

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Although some of that Savior says is true, it's pretty rare to find people that made "must never" rules about age, as in "he must never be more than ___ years younger than me." They may even consciously think that they are that type of rule, but that doesn't matter, what really matters is what the rule is subconsciously and often times people don't consciously know what that is without a great deal of reflection.

Most of the time age rules are "shouldn't" rules, as in "he shouldn't be more than ____ years younger than me....but as long as he's mature enough and he does everything else right that makes me want a guy, then I'll make an exception." This is where you simply have to accomplish what it takes to fit the exception, which in the case of age rules, is generally a certain level of maturity, as well as everything else that a girl needs to be attracted to a guy. That's all.

No reason not to game the women older than you. Hell, there used to be a few guys on here that claimed to specialize in that area; 18 year olds that regularly picked up and slept with women over 30 as a result of their youthful appeal, while still maintaining that requisite level of maturity.

So yeah, go game the older girls, just don't act like a young punk, act as you would in order to fit in with people of their age group, while maintaining your personality. Show them that age is just a number and your soul is older than that.

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i agree with lee but i wasnt implying never in a million years will they break these rules i dont even believe i stated it like that but i did say most, and i meant by that you seem to be talking ot girls 8 9 10 years older then you and it seems the higher we go up in age the harder it gets to break there age range plus it seems a girls age range or anyones age range is roughly 10 years from what they are so your ont he outskirts of that...

so i indicated

when a girl isnt finding your age to be appealing sorry dude its either two things...

your game isnt appealing to her aka she doesnt have attraction...

i meant you havent been able to create attraction to break her age range...cause it is possible like lee said i am only indicating at the age of girls you been talking to it gets to the point were there believes are hard to break

or

your age is a bit to young for her liking...... in this case there firm to what they want

but all in all if were not talking about your personal questoins in which most girls are close to 10 years apart from you and were just talking about age being a limiting factor in general

then id go with what lee said cause id agree that yea what he says is correct

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Sorry Savior, I merely meant to point out that the ratio of people that will break their "rules" about what age they will accept is far greater than of the people that stick to those rules religiously, not that you were saying one way or the other.

From what one of those guys I mentioned said, some of them had more luck with women over 30 than they did with women that were 18 (their own age) and on a regular basis were picking those older women up and closing them, aided by their youthfulness. That's an extreme case, as those women are attempting to re-capture their youth by sleeping with such a young guy and the girls in their mid-twenties don't have that same draw, but there's still nothing standing in the way aside from those social barriers. I'd say approach it with the same attitude as approaching a girl that you would have previously claimed is "out of your league", like a supermodel or something, because it's a similar social dynamic to overcome.

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Hey man age is a tough one . about a year and a half ago when i frist started hitting teh clubs i was in the same situation as you but what ive found is that over time if you go out and socialise with an older crowed you will begin to give off a vibe of maturity through both your appearence and and conversation . A thing that i changed greatly when i started hitting clubs was my physical size a girl can usualy spot a mile off if a guy is within their age bracket by the build I was also lucky being 6 ft 3 so i just grew into my height . This summer showed great success with older women i was 19 and k closed a good few older birds including a 29 year old teacher and i even managed to spark a short relationship with a 27 year old devorcee . This was crazy for me but i wish you teh best of luck just stick at it and face any rejection they throw at you and move on to teh next set :)

it aint a biggy lee


PickUpGuy,

keep in mind what your reading (above posts)
you'll have to up your game a bit perhaps, try to seem more mature, or fit the crowd your in, and yourself not worry about the age difference let her worry bout it if there is gonna be any worrying

and if in the end she doesnt end up giving you her number or you dont k-close or dont f-close whatever, just keep in mind move on it may of been your age that did you in and you had no control and it may very well of been your game wasnt able to drop her "ideal" age range......

just when you get home look at the things you did and pull apart your approaches and try to find flaws that could possibly be the culprit to why you werent able to seal the deal and if then you cant think of any reason why in a million years your approach went wrong then i believe you can rule in...she was one of the woman perhaps who just likes a guy closer to her age...

but dont let that thought she is only gonna go for a guy 28 cause she is 26 bother you...just go up and try your best thats really all you can do...like i said if there is worrying to be done about the age let her do it it aint your problem you were born 5 or 6 years apart,

what you should be worrying about is how boring any other guy in that club is making her feel....so i suggest getting your ass over there and saving her from banging her head against the wall in disgust from all the other afc's

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