I started learning about the game around 8 months ago and really got into it... Started meeting new girls with all the basic routines from mystery method or what you read everywhere. In fact I was even called out a couple of times but that didn't stop me from going with the canned stuff. I even met my current gf in one month from starting.

So here's the thing I never really kept on practicing after that... Since I found my gf, I really didn't go through with the whole journey... (I still have her too but i want to meet more and different girls to learn the skills to carry conversations with anyone and everyone)I have completely forgotten the little bit i learned and when i went out a couple nights ago I really flaked out and returned to my old afc self...

The thing is, i want to learn right this time... Should I go with the old routines and practice them until I get enough openings that I become comfortable? Then escalate with the rest of the model as each level becomes natural? Does the old stuff still work? Will the old stuff prepare me with how much the game has changed? Any advice on how to go about this would help out a lot. For now I'm just reading the book and watching the old videos to start from scratch. I would really like your input on what would be the best way to get that natural game most pua's talk about!!!

PUA's please give me your input....

I don't suggest you modeling your pickup method around Mystery's. Although he has some great stuff, his is the most mainstream and most likely to get you caught. If you really want to learn pickup, I suggest David Deangelo's Double your Dating, Juggler Method, and Stylelife challenge. The transition from AFC to PUA can take from as much as 3 months to 1 year. Be patient, don't expect this journey to be an easy one. I'm only 30% down my road, I've got a long way to go still before I'm where I want to be. But I've noticed I'm improving little by little. Just take it one step at a time, and make sure to work on your inner game before even learning to pickup women. You've gotta be an interesting person all around, whether you're gaming women or not. The second they realize you're a social robot (spitting canned lines to attract her), it's over.

HB's don't changed. What worked then will work now.

Who the hell cares if you get called out. Half the time the set isn't over, just start talking about the book 'The Game' and how interesting social dynamics is. And even then, getting called out 1% of the time isn't bad. I would focus on inner game and body language if you already know the routines. Be confident, competent, comfortable, and charismatic. (<- hmm that was nice, maybe I'll start my own workshop )

It will come back to you, and you will get to a point where you don't even think about routines or kino or gambits, a point where everything just comes naturally. You're the prize bro, act like it and you will get the responses you are looking for.

i hardly follow pua material....but im still very succesful

ill give you my routine.....

but keep in mind im in no way telling you to adopt any or all parts of my routine im only showing you that you dont have to follow mystery, pua or anything to a exact science......

now this routine isnt complete cause i cant go through every detail but this is the basis of it.....

if you have any questions after reading then message me back

first ill use a opinion/or direct comment, then interesting conversation, then say i gotta go and get the number or ask for her to hang out if i want...

simple as that......as you can see i dont bother with the whole a1 a2 a3 s1 s2 s3 mystery method technique, and i dont bother with the whole pua routine i just do my own thing, with bits and pieces here and there

the most important thing of all is yourself.....you have got to have a strong inner game before anything..... good body language, confident, feel good, postive and everyting else

but anyways my routine is very simple, the most important things however are how i display myself meaning body language, confidence, and just my overall aura........a lot of anything you say to a woman doesnt matter what you say ITS HOW YOU SAY IT

anyways here is a little more detailed version of my routine..im sure its missing parts if so sorry bout that


ill use an opinion/question or a direct comment to get the girls attention if she is really hot ill use an opinion i wouldnt recommend direct comments to really attractive woman, but thats just me...

after i have intiated contact ill work off what we are talking about, use cocky funny humor, turn aroudn what they say, just have a playful interesting conversation....i may touch her here and there once or twice like in the beginning when getting there attention touch there elbow for a second or two and say excuse me but i needed a female opinion on something.....later in the conversation i may touch real quick but only if the conversation allows it....so perhaps one or two touches but i dont work it into my routine if its there it is if it isnt i dont bother...most pua's do the whole kino thing..i dont bother..

so anyways thats already 2/3rds of my routine....just dont forget that all important strong inner game, body language, confidence and anything else included in that bunch


...after the conversation is over then i would say

ive gotta get going, but what would be the best way to continue this conversatoiin......or i gotta go but is there any way we can continue this conversatin....or work off what your conversation has been about with her and invite her to do something that she mentioned in that conversation that she liked to do,

so for instance say this girl just loves loves loves coffee for some odd reason say well i gotta go, you would then turn around to leave but then turn back really quick and go o yeah i almost forgot this friday i was actually going to go to this coffee shop ive heard of at so and so place, how bout you come along im guarentee you'd enjoy it........

just dont make the mistake of pulling material out of her conversatoin an inviting her along to do something that is just really starange that you just so happen to be doing

....for example saying o yeah by the way i was going to climb mt. everest this friday wanna come yeah that would just be weird, pleaes whatever you pull out of the conversation to invite her along on make sure it is fesible, and simple, and not completly stupid, or strange that you just so happen to be doing that
if she says she loves art gallery, museum, or coffee shop awesome that is very doable
mt everest ahhhh save that for when you are married...

or hell you can invite her to the coffee shop anyways even if she never mentioned anything bout that in her conversatoiin all you have to do is just turn back aroudn and say o yeah i almost forgot this firday i was gonna check out this coffee shop down town i heard its great...how bout you come along? im guarenteeing you'd enjoy it.....


and news flash i use that routine a lot cause ive been to that coffee shop billions of times, but hell she doesnt know that plus is just soudns better hey im gonna go check out so and so place its suppose to be really good

but anyways im only using coffee shop as an example...

now to reframe

thats opinion to open, interesting conversatoin worked off what she said in the opinion, to closing the deal by walking away have a nice day, get the number or ask for the hang out.....


so anyways if your gonna wanna get back into the game im not saying follow my method im just saying you dont have to be technical, its rather easy you just gotta develop a system that works for you.....but whatever system you use 80% of your success will come from how others percieve you that is body language, your confidence, the way you dress, act, just your overall character..


so if you got any questions just message me back ill get back at you

well on that note believe thats all i have to say

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