"Will this ever become mainstream?"

I want to start contributing more to this forum, but unfortunately can't post stuff in the main section until I get 30 posts. grrr . I get a lot of guys telling me they are worried that the game will reach mainstream and everyone will know about it. (By game I mean the level of detail the community have dissected social interaction, i.e. the community.)

The game will never reach mainstream, and even if it does, nothing will change. Assuming this level of knowledge gets mainstream, it’s still gonna be pretty easy to pick up the girls you want. Look at the world of fitness. By now, everyone knows that if you go to the gym and eat correct, you build muscle and lose fat. Majority of people are even members of a gym, yet how many people actually look like proper bodybuilders with 20+inch arms and 6% bodyfat? Maybe less than 0.001% of the population. It’s because it actually takes a lot of effort to get to that level, more effort than the average person is willing to put in. Pick-up is the same. It takes work, HARD work to get really good.

Now most of this will never get mainstream. There have been relationship help books on the shelves of Waterstones ever since people began writing self-help books 20 years ago. We’ve had rows upon rows of full size Neil Strauss The Game posters up in every London Underground station for several months when the game was released. Neil Strauss did countless interviews on programs like Richard and Judy, News programs etc. People have done interviews for the Tabloids. Yet, go up to any random person in London, and ask them if they know what ‘The Game’ is. 99% of people wont. This is the ‘in one ear out the other ear’ phenomenon. Most people have egos, so when people read about this in the media, they think “oh, another relationship help guide/book/guru, well I don’t need any of that!”, and then that’s the end of that for them.

People are also worried that commonly used opening lines are now no longer effective. All I can say is that I’ve been pulling girls using the so-called over-used “Who lies more?” opener in front of students for years and they still work today. This tells me that either no one is using these lines, or that a woman judges you on your personality, not what opening line you use on her.

On several occasions, I’ve sent a guy in to open a set with “Who lies more?” they get blown out then I go in use exactly the same opener and pull the girl. How is this possible? Because women judge you on your personality, not your opening line.

After maybe thousands of “who lies more?” sets, I’ve only been called on it twice. The first time it happened, the girl (who was a UG) said whilst smiling and getting excited “Oh hey! Some guy asked me this yesterday blah blah blah…”. The fact that she became excited and tried to continue the conversation with me means the opener worked.

The second time it happened, (years ago now), the girl said: “Can I stop you there, I know all about pick-up artists because I’ve read the article in the times blah blah blah…” So we just got into conversation (i.e. me doing the game) for about 40 mins, and in the end she gave me her phone number and I arranged to meet her for a day2. It was actually funny to see how she was getting attracted but was helpless to stop herself Met her for the day2 and had a great time with her, but as I was living with my parents had no where to take her back. Just so you know my parents are very strict, none of you have parents who even come close to how strict mine are. So even though this girl knew that I was running game on her and that I was a ‘player’, she still was attracted and wanted to get to know me. (Attraction is not a choice as David DeAngelo would say )

So I hope this elates fears that game will be less effective if the woman knows about this.


Questions? Comments?

Max

"So even though this girl knew that I was running game on her and that I was a ‘player’, "



Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it taught to us PUA's that we are not "players"? I remember reading in the MM him pointing out that we are not "players" we do not or dont cricle around trying to find our next target.We go from set to set.Sure we are after the same thing as a "player" but a "player" will just hit it and run..A PUA "leaves her better than he found her"....


As for your response to the Newbie,very good except the whole "player thing...

Well, whatever you want to call it: 'player', ladies-man, venusian artist, PUA, Don Juan. etc.

I meant the term 'player' as meaning the same as the above, as meaning a guy who is 'good with women'.

Don't really like using terms like PUA or player, because in the end we are designed for the same purpose.

Max

Well right on that works to lol....As long as you don't learn the PUA lifestyle and apply it to a "players way of thinking of hunting lol....