Well I'm really new to the game but I have been picking up the rules fairly quickly as I go along and I am learning to get some confidence with talking to women, but there are a just a couple of questions I would like to ask:

- Does race matter? I myself am of Indian origin (brown skin) but into both brown and caucasian women - I don't know whether it's just in my head, or is it that the caucasian women prefer caucasian guys? I can only answer part of this question myself..... I depends where you are (location). I live in a small town in England but I rarely get IOIs from caucasian girls.... The most I've had is from other Indian girls. There seems to be a culture in this place sorta like "you're not my colour so I won't even consider talking to you"....... I may be wrong but I haven't had anything to tell me otherwise.... The only IOIs I've had from caucasian women are the ones who have later admitted that they were very drunk when we chatted.

I know looks don't matter that much, and I can say I can be average to good looking, but does the body type matter? For example, beer belly, chubby, unshaven, a few pounds extra and maybe look like the stereotypical AFC??

Would appreciate anyone's thoughts on this!

Nope. There is a reason most guys with certain characteristics typically don't get women. It is not the characteristics themselves, it is the way in which the person perceives the effects those characteristics affect others' perceptions of them. Confusing, right? Take for example a fat guy who thinks he can't get girls because he is fat. He doesn't get girls because he believes he can't. Those inner beliefs control his outer projections, ie. how he acts around women. The fact that he doesn't attract women has nothing to do with his size - he just thinks this is the case and because he believes this, it becomes (and remains) a reality because of the way those beliefs cause him to behave around women. This same rule applies to any and every conceivable insecurity you could have about yourself.

Similarly, the reason most conventionally attractive men are better with women is because they know they're attractive and it gives them the confidence to do as they please because they know women will respond well to them. If you give this kind of attitude to a less physically attractive man and vice versa, who would be getting more women? Think about that. If you think you are the shit, you will become the shit.

Thanks man, much appreciated!! Its is quite difficult to get into the correct mindset, but once you get into that mindset, you're in........or so they say! I know that my situation impinges a lot on my ability! I am one of those 9-6 working guys who used to stay home a lot and not get out, but I have since started to go out and unleash the rules of the game!! I'm a slow learner, but with persistence and confidence I believe that there are good things to come!

There are going to be people to whom race DOES matter. You can't control that. You can only control how race affects you.

It doesn't affect me. I date women of all races, so long as they are pretty, intelligent, and fun. Looks do matter, but skin tone doesn't. I am currently dating a caucasian, a latino, a black woman, and an Asian.

I am a caucasian, if it matters.

Of course race matters. It actually plays a huge factor. Age, beauty, height, humor, profession, weight . . . every attribute is a factor. If you can't appreciate this, then I'd think your game will suffer.

The afc will go out and will use all these factors as excuses for why he can't get any play.

The average pua will say to himself that none of these things matter and just plow his normal game to any hb.

The veteran pua will use all of these variables to his advantage in his game. He'll play the game differently based on they type of women he meets in different cultural settings. You'll just have to calibrate and really get a grasp of feeling each hb out. I travel a lot and I've learned that every place has its culture and its social norms. If you want to elevate your game, you've got to figure out which of those norms to follow, which to bend, and which to destroy.

You are asking the wrong question.

Ok, some people will judge you from the color of your skin but do you really want to have anything to do with them? I would not date a Nazi-girl even if she was an 11.
As has been pointed out, all factors matter. But they do not matter as much as you might think.
If you run tight game its gonna be enough to negate the efffects of your skincolor. If not... Well good riddance.
You win some you lose some. You work with what you got and improve what you can, live with what you cannot change.

Race does matter! Especially being a minority period. The guy up there who is dating all those diferent races have the fact that he's caucasion gong for him. I'm willing to bet that the girls aren't strongly rooted in their social customs etc..(like they listen to the same type of music he listens to etc)

to get caucasion girls I would suggest learning the customs and norms of the girls, not to be fake but to have your best foot forward. Not everyone in the same race clicks because of personality, so imagine when you have customs and traditions on top of personality compatibility.

Every race is stereotyped differently by other races, some may work with or against ppl when they try to date each other. You are at a disadvantage of being noticed, without walking up to them and trying to pick them up.

Some ways to date those women you like would be to work on your social circle game. That is becoming friends with the ppl you see everyday at work or at school and using them to learn all about them. Then any of that you meet will see you as someone with similar interests because of who your friends with.

For cold approaches you can always find spots in EVERY major city that has hang out spot where caucasions or any other nationality that wants ndians ,in your case, will go find you. Pay attention to them, they are perfect for cold approach.

An example from my experience is when I see a white or Spanish girl hanging or talking to a bunch of her girlfriends who happen to be black(which is what I am). Or when they come to parties that are for Caribbean people then I know she's def into my race and talking to a girl like that is easier. On campus any girl hanging with a race opposite hers is such an obvious sign, that she will be talked about by that races amogs.

See sean messengers podcast on latinas for great tips.

all you need to be is well groomed. i mean if a nerdy asian guy like papa was able to pick up paris hilton's phone number in The Game, then i think anyone else can do it too. just look the best you can!

Hey guys,

It depends on the type of girl. For westernised and modern girls, race doesn't matter.

However, standing out will work to your advantage. E.g. If you are the only dark skinned guy in a community of white people, you can get laid without too much difficulty (It's basically a form of peacocking). You still need to obviously be high value and socially calibrated for it to work though.

Max

It's all in your head. The fact that it's in your head means you will telegraph low-value in the way you talk and act around white girls, and THIS is what will turn them off.
I live in London. I constantly get IOIs from white girls (most races). What exactly do you look like? Do you have typical indian style?
Start standing out, if you want to get IOIs. What exactly do you wear when you are out?

Max

This is just wrong!! Wrong I say! This coming from a guy who probably travels to the Baltics so he can get beautiful but desperate girls (hey, I'm guilty of that as well ).

YES, RACE DOES MATTER. JUST LIKE HEIGHT MATTERS. JUST LIKE MONEY MATTERS. Deal with it. Nobody said life is nice or fair. Hey, I admit that girls are attracted to me at first because of the color of my passport. I don't full myself and say that it is because I am a charming and suave dude. We all must realize that first impressions are crucial in life. Being an Indian will turn off many people. I'm not saying that this is right or fair, but it is reality.

Your solution: Shoot yourself Just kidding. You might have it harder than most, but persistence is what you should work on. Being an Indian I suspect that you are somewhat intelligent. Combine your intelligence with persistence and a liberal dose of "not giving a s--t". That should do the trick.