Ok I thought I overcame my approach anxiety but I'm not sure if this is actually a fear. Ok so I'm a senior in high school and there is this freshman girl here that is about an HB8-9...yeah some of you might feel uncomfortable talking about this but just think she is 19 lol. But anywho, I really want to make an approach but if I get shot down by a freshman, well I'd look pretty damn pathetic.

What are some ways that I could indirectly speak to her? I have no classes with her and the only times I see her are during lunch or in the hall way. I've been thinking about this for a while and felt too embarassed to post this on here but hey this is a brotherhood, I can trust you guys to help me out on this one.

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"

Just forget about her she's underage + underdeveloped physically and emotionally = Not worth it. Go after girls your own age

Atfirst I thought you were talking about high school. And I was going to warn you about going after freshman when you're a senior in high school. I dated freshman my whole career in high school and it just didn't work out well. Then I realiszed you were talking about college.

Fatass, I don't agree with you on this one. 19 is pretty old. She may not be totally developed, but she' pretty far along. If she was a freshman in highschool then I would agree.

I say just open her anyway. Something that popped into my head after seeing this was maybe using the are you shy opener? Go up to her and ask "Are you shy?" her: "yes/no" you: "oh well we've passed eachother a lot in the halls and you never said hi" Don't know how well this works in person since I've only read about it being used on social networking sights.

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Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears.

Well I didn't get the chance to read this before I said something to her but I will say that too her tuesday. Today one of my friends that is a girl was hugging me and trying to drag me back and to my luck the girl was walking by and i grabbed her hand and told her to help me and she squeezed back and laughed. then i got away and she was walkin down the stairs and i followed her and i said "Jeeze thanks for helpin me! you must be mean or something" No eye contact was made except for when i grabbed her hand and i made damn sure to look deep into her eyes.

so now should i do the shy opener?

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"

Nah I would go with something else now. Its good that you joked with her about not helping you. What about just using a regular opinion opener now? She's already had contact with you so I'm thinking it should be easier to go up and start talking to her now.

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Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears.

i know her friends pretty well and they told me that she is kind of stuck up and bitchy. when i gave her a crap for not helpin me she barely replied though. so i'm not too sure how i will deal with this. should i start by saying, "So I think I met your twin the other day" that seems like it would be a decent opener..or am i completely wrong?

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"

To be honest, I'm not really sure. Hopefully some more experienced people will help you out. Sorry man. I'm just scared I'm goign to steer you in the wrong direction and then I'd feel bad.

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Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears.

well give me your advice. you might turn out to be the next style who knows

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"

holy crap...i am baffled that I was actually trying too hard.. thank you so much man! this will definitely help me out BIG time. I play drums in a band so the next time that i approach her i'm gonna tell her to come to one of my shows..

THANK YOU!!!

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"

Shit. I just re-read your original post. Are you still really in high school and you're running a game on a 14/15 year old? I read "freshman" and immediately thought college. Dude . . . practice your approach shit on this girl but keep this on the up and up. Go after kids your own age. 4 years isn't much when your 28 but in high school. . . this doesn't seem right. Seriously man, there are so many women to work, all your doing is lowering your value going after someone who is basically prepubescent.

You probably have a good memory but I'm removing my post.

Haha thanks. That makes me feel better. Sounds like you already got some good advice that was deleted, but anyway here's my thoughts.

If she's stuck-up and bitchy you need to be very alpha and show her you aren't going to take her sh!t.

From other posts, I'm guessing Kasabi said that you should just invite her to one of your shows. I think thats a great idea.

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Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears.

no this is college stuff. not high school. i'm not that dumb. i share this account with my brother. i'm a senior in college and he is a senior in high school. he only put his intro on here but i use it now since he got a gf and then he asked if i wanted to use it. lol that would be fucked up to go for a freshman while in high school.

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"

haha thanks for your advice. your right i think being alpha would make me seem higher up on the chain (since I really am).

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My attitude towards talking to woman. When I approach a HB one phrase is going in my mind.
"What are they gonna do? Not be my friend?"