Pick up's in wal-mart, on the street and whatever else are easy opinion openers they work great. But college is different First off in any situation to make a girl interested it is best to not show your interest first as im sure you all know...So my problem is how do you say talk to a girl Who is in one of your classes, but you dont sit next to her..for example im in the back row she is in the front row..and once class is over she is out the door right away....you cant just go up to her and say gee let me get your opinion before, during or after class...it may work 10% of the time, but there is so many other people in the class it would almost make her think gee why you asking me? Your hitting on me? you know.

and to approach after class hell you cant just walk right up to her while in the hall and say let me get your opinion that also tips off Hey! I'm Interested....game over....I'm trying to think of a few Covert Comedy lines...Well thats my term for being sneaky and funny at the same time when you cant think of an approach not to get off subject but for example your in wal-mart HB is next to you and you dont know what to say hell drop a pocket full of change if she isnt a bitch she will help pick it up and bam start your conversation, or if your walking down the street she is walking the other way stop her ask her where so and so place is and whatever your asking make it the way she is going and then walk with her till you get where your going...

.so with those examples given to all of you.. can anyone think of any "Covert Comedy" Lines Well anyways back to my situation
...also if your thinking of sitting next to her forget that idea lol
...for instance first day of class and second day of class when you get there all the spots next to her are taken thanks to the AFG's...so if you sit next to her the 3rd class session it again tips off....Hey! Im interested! automatically.....by 3rd hell almost even 2nd class session people have stacked territory to where they sit in class, so to break a norm from where you sit to move somewhere else tips off Hey! I'm Interested..

I guess i could purposely run into Her sometime if i could find a moment that would allow and open with "You know if you wanted to talk all you had to do was say hi..you didnt have to get all violent" ...

That would work, but problem? Minimal chance you'll find the oppurtunity to do it, cause well you dont know her schedule which is creepy by the way but you dont know it so you have no idea where she is coming from where she is going or when her breaks our...and im not one to resort to following....if it comes to that for anyone you should say you know what there are a 1000 other girls on this campus lets go find another...

So after ranting on forever any bright ideas...

I've Been A PUA for only 6 months now and yeah i probably seem a little ahead of my game taking into account the above post, but you other PUA's should take this question as challenge you know, your gonna have to think in the mind of an MPUA if your gonna help me out here.......Hell! the game comes easy to me and all possible solutions thought of in a matter of seconds, Which makes you have to think harder in order to help me out i already have a few ideas that are guarenteed to work,

Such as Hold Eye contact and a slight smirk on your face as you walk in keep it up and perhaps on break say hey on occasion this in turn will raise her curiosity and most likely will be approaching me within the future to talk also break could be a good oppurtunity for a 2 minute coversation keeping it short and sweet a C&F line perhaps or a Neg, push pull might not be bad either all would get atraction up and with the combination holding a gaze with hers

and almost seeming uninterested always ending conversations is sure to be a knock out combo.....But im trying to expand my horizon and see if anyone else has any good ideas that i havent thought of you know..doesnt hurt to see things from someone elses perspective...

so any advice be appreciated...thats why i signed up just today...

Well first of all, I'm not an expert, so take notice of the ideas you like, and give constructive criticism to the ideas you don't like.

hm, I understand, and yes, I believe that picking up in College is way!! different than in a "normal" environment; in my opinion the approach should NOT be as direct, the process IS longer (no same day lays, although possible, because remember you are going to see her all semester long). So bear with me, Lets go back to the basics.

1) Be cool (confident, lay back, don't try to rush talking to girls, you know be your own person and do what you want!)
- The reason for this is because it will show a high value that is attractive (aka your time is more important to you than her time) and it also doesn't convert you into a needy wuss. Plus you have an advantage, you are going to have your sweet time to actually meet her. But don't wait until too long, I'd say couple of weeks without talking to her it's ok. But don't wait 3 months, you know?

2) Be alert of your environment (look for opportunities in which you can easily talk to the girl you wanna talk that seem natural, and doesn't make it seem like you are trying to hard) Once you find that window, take action: 3s rule, don't think about it, go, say hi! I might be a little lucky, I usually take action really quickly when I don't have anything to say I speak in Spanish (originally I am Spanish) and their faces light up, then I "translate" and say, hmm too bad you don't speak Spanish; point is you have to do something, anything better than nothing when you get that window.
- You can be C&F, or any other approach. I find that it usually works when you talk to her like you know her, and are buddies. (e.g. "geez, luis, that professor must think that we have no lives to make us do this... but I got an idea, you do my work, I'll give you a price.")

3)Get her name, ask her even if you know it already, that way you seem unattached, exchange info (e-mail's, cell, etc) "because how are you supposed to get your homework if she doesn't send you an e-mail" also ask her to find you in Facebook with just your name (you might have to explain what kind of picture you have) and if she finds you quick (within a day or two) that's a good signal.
- This is good, because after talking to her getting her info means she doesn't think you are a psycho killer, nerd, or a wuss bag. She might even be interested in you. Get the info quick though, set your pace, after talking to her a couple of times, maximum three in my opinion would be a good idea to get the phone number.

4)Escalate my friend, text message her, call her, and hang out with her, party if you must. Avoid talking about the class you actually go, so that she sees that you have more to offer and have more in common than one class in college.


Good quotes/ideas to start the conversation going:

- Hmm I see you working that pen... I was a bit distracted in class, let me burrow your notes. (you can introduce yourself before/after saying this)

- First day/week of classes
you: Hey, I pick you!
her: what?
you: I pick you!, you know for group projects... it seems like you are smarty pants, and I'll even let you pick the rest members of our group.
(and it doesn't really matter what she says after, most of the time it will be positive, unless the girl is a douche, in which case why even talk to her in the future)

- Hi, Let me burrow a pen ... (nag her if she doesn't have one, or ask for a better pen if she does have one) and then give it back at the end and ask... by the way what is your name "pen lady"?

I'm pretty sure, you can find many more! be creative have fun, but you know be cool, not a wuss.

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Also, Avoid! Avoid! Avoid!

-Talking to her during lecture, or even looking at her during lecture.
Nothing more annoying for anybody, than trying to concentrate and take notes and somebody comes and starts a random conversation. TALKING SHOULD ONLY BE BRIEF AND DONE before class starts, brakes, after class, and in group. this is why is vital to get the information.

-Understand that you'll have plenty of time to talk to that person outside class. Pace your self as if you are running 5 miles, but don't go too slow. So Don't rush it! (like you would sometimes would have to do in regular pick ups)

-If you indeed end up hooking up with somebody, don't mention it to ANYBODY, SAY NOTHING, specially if you don't want to enter in a relationship, or if you want to have sex with them. You wouldn't want to make it a mystery, but don't brag about it either. Bragging will only hurt you, and frustrate you if you want to hook up with more babes. Don't even say it to your best buddy that goes to your same school, and knows all your friends... OK?


now go out there! and make it happen.

Well i'll try to break down your advice as best as i can...but i gotta give you credit for throwing a few things in there...i left a tuff question to anwser, ive about 6 months into this whole PUA thing but the question i had asked was if i was a mpua....so good job....

anyways onto your message....ill break it down from the top of your message to the bottom....


#1 actually you can wait as long as you liked to not talk to her...reasons you havent met she hasnt formed an opinion given you hadnt made yourself an ass in class...but she has no opinion of you at the given time so to approach 3 weeks up the road to 3 months up the road is really no difference, only dis-advantage there maybe is a guy could swoop in to take your target in which case o well go look for another.....i say take as long as you like and when an oppurtune moment comes along take it

#2 the 3s rule? That rule should only be followed if you got AA, thats why its there so you approach in 3seconds that way you cant psych yourself out...so for everyone with minimal or no approach anxiety take as long as you'd like in the approach long as you dont take so long your target leaves....this way you can study the subject obviously without her knowing of course but study her in an attempt to find a neg or a C&F line or hell just wait a min or 2 before approaching and come up with a good opinion opener..just dont be standing arounding looking like your thinking and approach her you know....anyways...approaching in 3 seconds basically which is immediatly puts you on the spot, yeah you better think and i mean think FAST....

(e.g. "geez, luis, that professor must think that we have no lives to make us do this... but I got an idea, you do my work, I'll give you a price.")

I like the comment there but you should really use something like....Man! I'm Glad that professor knows we have no lives and is making us do all that homework...o wait (pause) i got an idea (pause) how bout YOU do my work for me...and I'LL come up with a reasonable price. ....its a slight difference yours is mostly coming across as complaing and mine is coming across as sarcastic which is what you want but im sure you thought of yours in 2 seconds and would of revised it before using it in the field...so good job...i probably wouldnt thought of it....

#3 i like the idea get her name if you already know it...that is very accurate advice.....But thats where the good advice stops...exchange info no, ask her to find you on facebook...no.....reasons first you should wait to ask for her info and really kick up the CF comments, Negs and everything else which will create a ton of sexual tension and attraction you'll be seeing her a lot at school so why get the info in a week to 3 even...once you get the digits no matter how slick you are about it always tips off in a way IM INTERESTED, thats why all the good puas out there indicate shit dont stop there cause yeah if you do game over.....so really id torture this girl not cruel u know what i mean though id mess with her head get her thinking does he like me does he not, eventually if your good enough at what you do adn she isnt a total slut or bitch she'll start to come on to you and showing deffiante signs of IOI's....Now asking her to find you on facebook is the same almost as getting a number in todays world, and if its the same as a number or close to it tips off im interested and even if you dotn see it how i do it still says im interested example
You: blah blah blah
Her: Blah blah balh
You: so ashley, i know your not exactly the most INTELLIGENT girl on campus but how good our your computer skills?
Her: blah blah balh
You: Well lets find out, you got my name look me up on facebook but anyways i gotta go it was nice chatting with ya....

im seeing this line almost like you got my number call me up sometime...



4)Escalate my friend, text message her, call her, and hang out with her,

....ACTUALLY id like to just chat at school and go at my own pace and once i know i got her completly attracted or damn near i kick it up one notch that way once class is over with she will be looking forward to the next time she see's me which will heighten attraction even more....

First day/week of classes
you: Hey, I pick you!
her: what?
you: I pick you!, you know for group projects... it seems like you are smarty pants, and I'll even let you pick the rest members of our group.


i like the start im sure it worked cept the ending

ill LET YOU pick the rest of the members....wahts wrong about it is that your giving her the power here....id say something like I'll even let you pick the rest of the group but of course ill have to give you the ok



Hi, Let me borrow a pen ... (nag her if she doesn't have one, or ask for a better pen if she does have one) and then give it back at the end and ask... by the way what is your name "pen lady"?

I love it lol....i see you even said LET ME like your making her and not being an AFG sayign CAN I.... ill deffiantly use this one....


well believe my post is long enough hope i wasnt to harsh....


give me some of your thoughts.....

naw that was not harsh at all.

A few things, but I think its preference.

- I like to get the info fast (by around 3 weeks to 4 weeks) reason is, that if you delay this, like you said somebody else comes to take the girl away. Also she might not have an impression of you, but, I'd rather she does soon.

- Getting Facebook, is good because you can message each other.

- Yeah, I agree with you, go at your own pace, actually that's the best advice. Everybody has a different pace, so this is where the main difference comes out.

- My "quotes" I came with them as I was writing them, or have done them before in the spot, they are not canned, I don't use that kind of material, that being the reason of them not perfect. I've always think body language, and attitude are more important than what you say. It's how you say it that matters for me.

But I believe we have made a reasonable short, guide for college people out there, so I'm content. Too bad nobody else puts any input here.

Well im not suprised, i believe we've had over 40 views and only 2 responses from each of us i believe that go's to show you...it was either to long for them saying you now im not taking the time to bother, kind of shows the amount of displine someone has...or they read it and are like i have no f'in clue so they dont respond thats really the only two explanations......

once i sent my post i actually thought bout that facebook thing and was like you know, say you see a girl once every week well obviously you know attraction will be a little harder to come by and i believe that facebook idea wouldnt be to bad, ill try it out if the moment calls for it....

preverably i believe take the time but for some reason i have just got a knack for knowing stuff when she is interested when to do this or that...
but that was off topic
my point is i go to a community college and yeah you get a few hot girls there and that means lot's of AFG's so my reasoning here is i can take my time and do my thing and when she get's hit on by every other loser who go's there that makes me seem just that better but thats where the foresight of being good at knowing if i see maybe some guy is a possible threat yeah ill go in for the kill get the digits and hang out with her sometime, that way the other guy has to step up to the plate and take her out as well....most the time this where those Slightly Cocky AFG's lose there composure they do stuff like where do you want to go? suck up to her? work hard for a kiss? and talk bout sex in a way that says im hinting at what i hope to be doing tonight?....


well there was no editing to that pen line before i feel asleep i was like damn! im gonna try to in class even if i got a pen lol...hell she doesnt know whether i do or not...nice!!!...

you know give it back to her by the way whats your name pen lady..

blah blah blah...

me: thats an alright name so what you going here for?

to get off topic real quick our school is known for its cosmetology so its an easy targer..

Her: law enforcement

me: really? i dont see it, i see you more as a cosmetology kind of girl, ahhh but then again your hair does look like you just got done battling a wind storm ..id stick with law enforcement...

or

Her: cosmetology...

Me:really? i would of said nursing but cosmetology thats cool...i guess you'd be a big hit with that hair do of urs?

Her? what you mean?

Me: well...(seem as if ur unsure you should say it) your hair looks like u just got done battling a wind storm but i guess cosmetology can fix all that i bet

im almost postive then she after saying her and whatever else she will say. She will be wanting to know what ur going to school for its a normal human response u ask a question like where you live? or what you do? or where you work? they will duplicate and ask the same question right back so having this knowlege, foresight and knowing of human behavior you can set your routines up to almost a T....

so id say somethign like

Me?:...Me? well im going here to be an astonaut

Her? really?

Me; yeah? and later on today i gotta write a letter to webster bout why there taking the word gullible out of the dictionary?

by then you say nice to meet you after her response and leave it at that till next class...doing this type of routine. opens you up HIGHLY to use a inside joke that just you to use...as i call i a connection phrase...i dont know if what you guy's call an anchor is the same thing i thought that was eliciting a touch to trigger a feeling and certain places and smells to a feeling as well which works great i highly recommend it....but what im talking bout is just having an inside joke with on another...its like cat nip for women lol.....its builds attraction 5x's quicker then every class period trying to come up with new info to say to her...all you gotta say is your inside joke to her and bam i bet you get a smile and she'll call you by ur name and continue your conversation from there....

so back to my conversation with her this would be brought up before conversation end, and then bring it up next conversation....
if you use it in the middle when not much attraction is built and whatever else...she may be thinking sometimes sometimes be thinkign..UM OK...like your weird yea bad

so at the end i would use something like

ME: You Know? i still cant see you as _____ i think your better off with that comso career....hey! that brings up an idea, i just thought of a great nickname for you?

her: what?

me:...what you think im easy or soemthign its gonna take a lot more convincing then that

Her:....o come on.....(or)...o come on please

me: gees fine..dont gotta be so pushy bout it.....just figured cosmo suits you quite well ... well anyways it was great chatting (pause)...cosmo..ill see you next class..(you exit room..or leave wherever you are at)....

no idea why i just ranted on forever lol............

but after last night i was thinkign and thought to myself you know...that cosmetology thing would be so easy to use....if they do cosmetology say they be better at somethign else then rag on them bout how bad there hair looks.......

or if they are not going for a career in cosmetogy say i cant really see you as a _______ but cosmetolgy now thers a profession for you, welll...maybe not? leave a shadow of a doubt
she will most likely ask.....why?

your response.....its just your hair looks like you just got out a wind storm...

or what you think i am easy or something, (pause) its gonna take a wee bit more convincing then that


anywyas comment back with yoru thoughts as always, i just came up with those lines like 2 mins ago while i was writing those blogs im bout 100% sure they would work....

but leave your comments and perhaps expand on my book length message

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if you are confident and your body language says so... you can be direct in any situation just be careful... honestly if you're talking to this girl at all shes gunna have some suspicion i think that seem disinterested thing is just a general rule you dont always have to follow... at the heart of that rule all its really saying is dont be needy.
you go up be direct and don't give a shit about the outcome... if you convey confidence shes not gunna blow you out outright, this gives you a chance to strut your stuff and give her a reason to be interested back

Good tips here. I'm in college as well. So this is really helpful.

Ive just done a post in the PUA lounge about University/college and other closed system tips that might help.

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I think you got a great set-up rehearsed. But the problem is, ITS REHEARSED!

The main problem I have with sarges is when I think about the same lines I remember and say over and over again. Just make sure you say it TOTALLY naturally, and be prepared for the convo to accidentally take a different course.

Backup material may be required - you never know if someone else interrupts whether it be AFC or a girlfriend.

I'm sure you'll be fine - you seem like a natural. Go with the flow bro.

Jesper

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I just wanna point out real quick that those lines i had wrote were not rehearsed they were just something thrown out there to help guys see how a conversation can escalate, i went on to say typical human behavior is that if you ask a question she will most likely be asking the same question back, so with that in mind you can be knowledgable of the conversation you'll have, i wasnt saying here go up to a girl and rehearse what i said, im knowledgable enough to know if you go in set and expect a girl to say this your screwed if she doesnt, but you did bring up a good point bout rehearsed conversations before you go into your approach your screwing your chances before you even start...

i just wanted to clear that up, i wasnt rehearsing lines those were off the top of my head while i was writing they were there to show guys how to escalate a conversation and predict what MAY happen next, if you can almost 90% of the time start a conversation and almost know what she is gonna say next your game will go far......dont get that confused with rehearsing, im talking bout be able to read people like a book

ill post more later

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