Well, I know you'll all be skeptical when I say that she is the one, but I'm not here to prove that to you. You've gotta trust me.

I'm in HS (I'm 17) and she's the girl I've always liked (loved?). We've almost gotten into a relationship a couple of times and I know that she used to like me (she told me).

I used to be Mr. Nice Guy and so naturally i had a lot of chickfriends but nothing serious. I've been reading a bit on PU and I've changed the way that I talk to girls, and I am a natural talker so I'm able to chat up girls pretty easily. But not with her - everything I've learnt and everything I plan to do and say just falls apart the moment I see her. I'm still able to hold a decent convo and make her laugh but it isn't as natural as with the other girls.

Some of you might tell me to get over her. The problem is that I don't want to. Shes the kind of girl you'll like no matter. Not an hour goes by where I don't think of her. And every night I dream of her.

Basically, I want some advice on either how to relax and chill out when I'm with her or how I can get her to think of me in a different way. Or like how to bring things to the next level, because right now we're good friends.

I know you probably think this is just some cute puppy-love kinda thing. Maybe it is. But at this point in time shes the one. So help me please

You are asking the wrong type of guys. Pickup is not about etting that girl, it is about getting 100 such girls and then chose one or all of them.

If you are certain about this girl... get married! However, dont forget youre still in HS and your life has just started.

thats true, but i can still use the techniques and the know-how from PU to seduce her.

Yeah, but it's much more difficult than you thing. Your whole inner game, value and what you do changes drastically.

Trust me, I've been there.

I had oneitis for a girl a couple of months ago, and yeah, she was/is fantastic. And I thought to myself "What the hell. I can pick up most other girls, so why not her?". I even knew exactly what to bust her on, how to tease her, what to say and what to do. But guess what: I couldn't. Everytime I met her, something clicked. I knew how much I needed to game her, but I just couldn't. I suddenly started thinking "No.. Wait. I can't say that. Or maybe I can. Hmm.. I should just be safe and don't say/do that". It happened more and more, and I couldn't control it. At some points, I even started to think of her having higher value than me.

In the end, I stopped thinking about her and went on gaming other girls. I never believed in laying 10 girls to get over another, but it actually works. Now that I don't have oneities, I can really feel the difference when I talk to her. Suddenly, teasing, CF and everything is just natural. And I never talk to her, thinking "I love to talk to her. I can't ruin this moment. I'll game her more next time".

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look, if you have oneitus then you are an AFC, not a PUA. you can't be a PUA and have oneitus. It goes against the PUA code.

PUA is a lifestyle choice. It's a way of interacting socially with other people. The result is that girls are going to want you much more than if you were an AFC. If you wanna have oneitus, then you are becoming an AFC. I don't think it is wise to put all your eggs in one basket this early in your life, because statistically, the chances are you are not gonna spend your life with this girl.

Be a man, become a PUA, lose the oneitus, and you will thank me for it later.

dont need to all be so negative towards the guy. We've all been there, difference is we're past it.
The only difference between us and him is experience, and the fact you all see yourselves as higher value then the women you wish to seduce.

As for you dude (dorg21), you say shes the one, personally I dont really believe in love, just attraction. The minuit you realise theres 6 billion fish in the sea, you'll think that theres gotta be more then one that you'd pair up nicely with.

Once you've gotten that far you'll think that this girl isnt that special, but you are. So why is she so perfect for you anyways? And finally you'll act towards her like she isnt that special, and she'll fall; simply because you will have heigher value then her.

just don't lose her, it doesnt matter how you get her, if you don't you will be wondering "what if," for the rest of your life.

take a genuine interest in her, if she plays sports, go to watch.
Invite her and some friends to the beach or to the movies or something, a party is good.
having "extra," tickets to a concert she likes is good too. Normally I would advise against buying her stuff, but I think if you one of the things I mentioned and you get a good relationship out of it, it was worth it

If you haven't been with her for 5 years (in a relationship, not just wishing you were in one), then you can't say for sure whether she's "the one" or not. You need to understand this, because otherwise you're just setting yourself up for massive heartbreak if you don't succeed. Still try though, so learn what you can and building attraction and if she feels the same way, then things will work out. Good luck man.

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man, if you see her as a superior being youll never get her, thats why you can't game her, and some guy's gonna come and treat her the way she wants to be treated, and he's gonna get her and make all dirty things your mind can think of!

Hey bros,

Thanks for the answers. It got me thinking, and I've decided to do this: I'll focus more on PU and get my confidence and skills back up, and I'll see how things improve with her from there. Maybe if she knows that I've got other options she'll think differently about me...

yeah, you need the right frameset

there's no oneitis when you're pua because this almost denotes that the girl don't need to do nothing and you're already in love, and thats fucking wrong

the right frameset can even be "hey, I want her to be my girlfriend" but you will only do this if she acts like she deserves it...if you're being cool and seductive and she acts like youre on her feet, fuck her
so logically you want this girl, but you dont need, and youre not gonna submit to anything she does just because she is hot

You are 17, of course she is the one. They are all the one at 17. The best way to game her, is to game other girls. Start flirting and playing around with other girls. She is going to see that you have other options and wonder why she is not getting the same attention she previously was. At that point, she is going to make attempts to gain your attention once more. If she doesnt, than move on, because at that point you have several other options.

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I've been there too bud, but you can't think like that. If you want her go get her but don't become dependent on her. The reality is you are still young and have a lot of life ahead of you. Have fun now and don't worry about finding "the one". I thought I found "the one" when I was 17 too. I lived my life around her and after 4 years she decided that she wanted to look elsewhere. From there my life took off and to places I never thought it would go. Trust me when I say to have a great time with her but don't let her become your world because there is plenty more out there to explore.