Someone told me yesterday that London is the capital for pickup. There thousands of PUAs out there and not enough hot women. Its hard to compete I am fucking sick and tird of this fucking game. I hate AMOG guys I cant compete with these teenage guys who learn PUA.

I wish l learned Pickup when i was in the my mid twenties fucking hate this shit i am sick and tired of it. I get a handful of day 2's but no lays i have been doing this shit for 6 months now.

Maybe i should just fuck whores. English girls are fucking attention sluts they are all fucked up in previous relationships

Hey,

I'm a member of the Brisbane Lair (australia). Have you found any other PUA's in london to hang out with? to watch? I found that i didn't really get anywhere on my own until I found people who had already been doing this for longer than me with a higher sucess rate. they told me when i was fucking up.

Its quite amazing how fast you correct things in your game when someone who knows what they are doing points it out. Feel free to give up mate, if you do it'll make it easier on the rest of us, but will it make you better? Are you peacocking enough? remembering to smile when you walk into clubs?

Maybe your aiming to high with girls in the beginning? (anyone please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong) if you go for less attractive women in the beginning to get your confidence up. Make yourself feel like the man then next time you go to open a more attractive girl then you'll feel more easy about it and it'll show in your body language. If you think your already going to fail before you even begin then you've shot yourself in the foot before you begin to run a marathon.

Have you read mystery method, annihilation method, watched or read any of deAngelos stuff? and most of all. when you fuck up, are you going back to see what you did wrong. the best things to learn from are your mistakes.

Cheers mate,
Striker

Don`t let this whole shit takes over your ordinary life. Take a break for a few weeks. You probably have other things which makes you happy besides PU. Do sports, travel somewhere, read a book which is NOT about PU, do whatever makes you happy. Forget PU if it doesn`t make you happy. Distance yourself from it for a while. You obviously put way to big preassure on yourself and you probably telegraph neediness and nervouse when gaming girls. Give yourself a break!

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I will second his testament to the majority of 9 or 10 london girls being broken up because of previous relationships.

Gonna take a break your right. Tired of these attention seeking english bitches all they do is fucking moan about how other guys have treated them like shit.

WELL U BITCHES ITS YOUR OWN FUCKING FAULT U DO THE CHOOSING WE DO THE CHASING SO STOP TAKING IT OUT ON US GUYS U SAD ENGLISH WHORES.

I am stopping PU for now you fucking whores are driving me insane. And all those fucking amogs out there try your shit on me and you get a baseball bat around your fucking head.

Kev

Sorry guys i lost my job a few days ago I am angry and pissed. Its like i am in my mid 30s and havent had a single lay from a normal girl. I cry at night sometimes.

I boil it down to being to fucking nice to everyone in my life EVERYONE LIKES TO TAKE FUCKING ADVANTAGE OF ME FUCKING WANKERS

dude, meditate. Breathing properly does wonders.

Hi Hobbit,

I did an RSD Bootcamp about 8 months back and they were good they open my eyes as to what is possible.

I did think of doing BradP bootcamp next month. But i dont feel that another bootcamp will help me. To be fair I feel myself getting angry when things dont work out.

What do you suggest I do ? please i really am lost here.

Kev

Hey man, I've been in game for about 4 months myself now. Haven't been lucky enough to attend bootcamps but I've read most of the books and have been practicing in field. I haven't had success on the level of any of the greats but I do know that I can look back to the way I was before I discovered this stuff and see how far I've come. If you can get day 2s now where you couldn't before then you've improved in some way so don't give up. If you give up now you'll just continue getting day 2s where if you keep reading and practicing you'll get better and better and eventually you will be able to get laid pretty much anytime you want. I say keep at it man, just don't take it so seriously. This stuff is meant to enrich your life so just take it casual, like a hobby. Practice and get better but don't be too concerned with the outcome, as long as your improving in the long term

I can relate to how you are feeling, I'm mid 30's and was sick of seeing super fit babes being snapped up by 20 odd year old guys however the feeling I get when I manage to bag a 20 something year old babe is well worth the annoyance felt at other times.

Last night I was in a bar and a 21 year old hb8 opened me .. she walked by as I was sat down, I gave her good eye contact, smiled a little, she smiled back said hi and then commented on my watch so I told her it wouldn't fit her as her wrists were too chubby so she sat down and insisted on trying it on to prove me wrong and the game began

I'd take a break if you feel that fed up, do as Marco suggests, but then come back and hook up with some other PUA's rather than soloing it, there are loads in london and many are willing to share and encourage each other so before you give up and put your local escort service on speed dial arrange to hook up for a night out with other PUA's and get a motivation injection.

it's surprising how one good night can flip your whole understanding of it all forward by a massive leap so don't give up, use that frustration and turn it into a resolve to make it work.

if you give up you are basically saying you are happy to settle for not being in control of your own destiny.

i have the mentality of i am going to live my life i really dont care weather a woman is involved in it or not i dont try to pick up on woman i just go out there do interesting things and if i happen to run across a gourgous woman who can hold my attention without being a princess then thats a good thing now i am not rude to any woman i just dont go out with the intention of gameing them

Kevin...STOP!!!
Since February, I have had 2 k-closes and one f-close. We ALL get frustrated when we get started. It takes time to get your frame right. So light a fag, take a shit, listen to death metal, something to reeeelax!

Take some time off! Develop your openers, routines, negs, etc. Get your frame together.

After a couple of weeks, try sarging. You will find it easier because you have had time to think about what went wrong during day 2's. It will fit together like a puzzle, and it will be one you can solve.

Style wasn't a mPUA overnight, Mystery didn't develop the Method in a few hours, and David D. wasn't cocky/funny in an instant.
And since starting in February, Neo is not a master. All I can do is give good advice.

Oh, and don't forget the MOST IMPORTANT part of pickup...HAVE FUN!

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"A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime."- White_Rose

This is the ONLY rule that I have: If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!

Kevin, you need to remember that this isn't a magic pill, this isn't an overnight change, this isn't a 6 month change. Mystery said that after 6 months you should START to see results, not that you should be fucking hot girls left and right. You are trying to make alterations to how you have approached women and interacted with people for the past 30+ years, IT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE EASY! If it were easy, then it wouldn't be worth doing and you wouldn't be putting time and effort into it, because you would have figured out how to do these things on your own long ago.

Every once in a while I take a break from the scene; sometimes a few days does wonders and sometimes there are things in life that need to be taken care of and I'll take months off. During these times, I do a lot of growing in other areas and when I do get back into things, I often have a fresh perspective that helps me to take it to the next level.

Sometimes you hit certain sticking points that you have trouble seeing for yourself and that someone else can offer some great advice on when they see you doing it. Workshops are great for helping with this, but there's also lots of knowledgable guys that are in lairs and that help guys for free. Just because you attend one workshop, doesn't mean that attending another wouldn't be helpful, ESPECIALLY if it's been 8 months. You've come a hell of a long way in just a few months, from what I've seen at any rate, so now you've got new problems that need work, you're able to take things further than you could before, so you'll have new areas to work on that you couldn't address fully before.

This is a brick wall man, but the brick walls are there to let us prove how much we want something. So you can either quit on yourself (cause we aren't gonna quit on you), spend money on whores and feel degraded because of it, or you can keep working towards your goal, knowing that you may not reach it for a while, but you WILL reach it.

For the record, it was about 16 months after I read The Game and learned about the community, before I got my first f-close from pickup. So if you want to say that you've got it rough, then come back in 11 months if you still haven't f-closed someone and I'll give you all the private tutoring you want and I know other guys that took even longer than that, so you still won't have any reason to worry.

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