i am working on a HB8 via msn (never made this, once i saw the msn game etc i gave it a try), already broke her bitch shield (like a freaking god), but i am having trouble with a "coffee close".

How can i make it? She's kind afraid.

Have you mentioned going for a coffee already then? what have you said so far?

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I msn game regularly so i could help

First gave her fun, stupidly after she was having fun tried to coffee close, no problem, i got immediately back in the game, have her DHV, emote, protector of the loved ones. broke her bitch shield defining her, telling what i thought about her, but never things like u hot etc, just made a deep definition of her (told her about the bitch shield but not mentioned the name of course) etc. after all this asked about the coffee, she told, "maybe, we will see". i am out of words now... don't know what to say so i made a way to stop talking for some time to think about it, don't wana say shit.

the log ain't in English...

MSN game is my speciality You often find this with internet girls. I always wait a week or two before I ask for a meet. Shows your not desperate or too keen. When she says 'we shall see' say something cheeky like 'I really think you should meet me for coffee because lets face it, i'm almost perfect lol' If she says she's worried about meeting say something like 'what's the worst that could happen? I'm only going to kidnap you and hold you hostage for several years lol'. What your really doing is taking the piss out of her indecision and paranoia and it makes her feel stupid for being like that, it seems to break her barriers down against meeting. Make sure you meet her somewhere public though. No girl with half a brain would meet anywhere else. Feel free to ask for further comments.

i wanted to make a fast date close once i'm out for hollydays for arround 1 and an half months lol, wanted to try a really fast close, but guess it's impossible lol.

It's not impossible, just difficult, it depends on the girl. Try the lines and see what happens. If you want to find lots of girls online try www.pof.com should be loads of girls in your area.

Two Words Dude

Go Direct!

After you built rapport go straight in there but tell dont ask. If you ask your demonstrating lower value and it just seems week. What I usually find works is asking the girl a question about what she wants to do on the date with the assumption she has already said yes! While IMing simply say something like "so where do you want to meet for Coffee on X?". You'll come across as Cocky Confident and get 2 responces.

1. She will answer your question with where she wants to go for Coffee

2. She will Shit Test you with somethink like "what makes you think im going out with you?" When this happens stick to your guns and stay conffident say something to the effect of "coz you cant resist a guy like me."

OK telling not asking works for one reason like Mystery says we are out dated machines and this is the modern equvallent to hitting the girl with your club and dragging her back to your cave. The fact that you put a question about the date however shows that you value her and her opinion.

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